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| {{Memory Infobox | | {{Memory Infobox |
| | image = | | | image = ACOD_-_Too_Much_of_a_Good_Thing.png |
| | | description = ''[[Pentheus (Thebian)|Pentheus]]' mind was at peace, but he still suffered in life. [[Hippokrates]] knew of a way to ease his pain, but too much could be fatal.'' |
| | appearance = ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' | | | appearance = ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' |
| | type = Side, Character | | | type = Side, Character {{c|[[Hippokrates]]}} |
| | previous = [[Inheritance Insurance]] | | | previous = [[Inheritance Insurance]] |
| | next = | | | next = |
| | source = [[Kassandra]] | | | source = [[Kassandra]] |
| | location = [[Thebes, Greece|Thebes]] and [[Ruins of Plataia]], [[Boeotia]], [[Greece]] | | | location = [[Boeotia]], [[Greece]] |
| | date = 429 BCE}} | | | date = 429 BCE}} |
| '''Too Much of a Good Thing''' was a virtual representation of one of [[Kassandra]]'s genetic memories, relived by [[Layla Hassan]] through the Portable [[Animus|Animus HR-8.5]]. | | '''Too Much of a Good Thing''' was a virtual representation of one of [[Kassandra]]'s [[Genetic memory|genetic memories]], relived by [[Layla Hassan]] through the [[Animus|Portable Animus HR-8.5]]. |
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| ==Description== | | ==Description== |
| [[Pentheus (Thebian)|Pentheus]]' mind was at peace, but he still suffered in life. [[Hippokrates]] knew of a way to ease his pain, but too much could be fatal. | | Kassandra spoke to [[Hippokrates]], who thought of a way to help ease [[Pentheus (Thebian)|Pentheus]]'s pain. |
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| ==Dialogue== | | ==Dialogue== |
| Hippokrates called Kassandra for her assistance. | | As Pentheus laid back down to rest, Hippokrates called Kassandra over to him for her assistance. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''If you have a moment, I would ask you to help me with something.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''If you have a moment, I would ask you to help me with something.'' |
| As Kassandra faced him, she briefly glanced back to the resting Pentheus. | | As Kassandra faced him, she briefly glanced back at Pentheus. |
| | [[File:ACOD Too Much of a Good Thing 1.png|thumb|250px|Kassandra and Hippokrates discussing Pentheus' condition]] |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''He seems to be resting peacefully now.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''He seems to be resting peacefully now.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Yes, you helped ease his mind, but he'll never truly be at peace until he takes his last breath.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Yes, you helped ease his mind, but he'll never truly be at peace until he takes his last breath.'' |
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| They paused on the depressing situation. | | They paused on the depressing situation. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I can lessen his pain, but to do so, I'll need some [[hemlock]].'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I can lessen his pain, but to do so, I'll need some [[hemlock]].'' |
| | | (Accept – "I'll get the hemlock.") |
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| | [[File:ACOD Too Much of a Good Thing 3.png|thumb|250px|Kassandra agreed to help collect the hemlock]] |
| Accept – I'll get the hemlock.= | |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll collect the ingredients you need.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll collect the ingredients you need.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Thank you. It won't stop the pain entirely, but I hope it'll help him feel more comfortable.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Thank you. It won't stop the pain entirely, but I hope it'll help him feel more comfortable.'' |
| |-|Leave – Not right now.=
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| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I don't have time for this right now.''
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| Kassandra returned.
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| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I still need hemlock for the pain if you're able.''
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| (Back to dialogue choice one.)
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| *'''Kassandra:''' ''He doesn't want to feel better. He wants to die with some dignity.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''He doesn't want to feel better. He wants to die with some dignity.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''True dignity would be fighting through this so I can analyze his symptoms further.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''True dignity would be fighting through this so I can analyze his symptoms further.'' |
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| You're letting him suffer.= | | |-|You're letting him suffer.= |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''He wants to die and he's in pain. You should respect his right to choose instead of treating him like an experiment. What you're doing is wrong.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''He wants to die and he's in pain. You should respect his right to choose instead of treating him like an experiment. What you're doing is wrong.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I will not be lectured on the morality of my work by a [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Mercenary#5th_century_BCE sell-sword]. I have a responsibility, like all healers, to use my knowledge for the betterment of others.'' | | Hippokrates' expression changed to one of self-aggrandizement. |
| | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I will not be lectured on the morality of my work by a [[Mercenary#5th_century_BCE|sell-sword]]. I have a responsibility, like all healers, to use my knowledge for the betterment of others.'' |
| |-|You're doing the right thing.= | | |-|You're doing the right thing.= |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I can't imagine how difficult this must be, but I know you're doing what you can to help him.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''I can't imagine how difficult this must be, but I know you're doing what you can to help him.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Sometimes I worry that it's never enough. First the [[Plague of Athens|plague]], and now this. The ailments that afflict [[Human|man]] are as varied as the [[Twelve Gods|gods]]. It would take me many lifetimes to learn about them all.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Sometimes I worry that it's never enough. First the [[Plague of Athens|plague]], and now this. The ailments that afflict [[Human|man]] are as varied as the [[Twelve Gods|gods]]. It would take me many lifetimes to learn about them all.'' |
| </tabber> | | </tabber> |
| | | (If "Where is the hemlock?" is chosen.) |
| (If players asked "Where is the hemlock?") | |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Hemlock is rare. Where do you harvest it?"'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Hemlock is rare. Where do you harvest it?"'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''It grows all across Boeotia, but check near the [[Tumulus of Plataia]]. I'm sure I saw some when I was last there.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''It grows all across [[Boeotia]], but check near the [[Tumulus of Plataia]]. I'm sure I saw some when I was last there.'' |
| (If players asked "Why hemlock?") | | (If "Why hemlock?" is chosen.) |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Why are you treating him with poison? Hemlock is deadly.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Why are you treating him with [[poison]]? Hemlock is deadly.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Only in the wrong dosage. If my observations are correct, it should lessen the pain wracking his body.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Only in the wrong dosage. If my observations are correct, it should lessen the pain wracking his body.'' |
| (Leave – "I'll go now.") | | (Leave – "I'll go now.") |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll get the hemlock you need.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll get the hemlock you need.'' |
| | | [[File:ACOD Too Much of a Good Thing 4.png|thumb|250px|Kassandra finding the hemlock]] |
| Kassandra left and rode south outside the city. When she arrived at the bridge north of the Ruins of Plataia, she found it surrounded by wolves. She dealt with the pack then found hemlocks under the bridge by the river bank. | | Kassandra left and rode south outside the city. When she arrived at the bridge over the riverbank north of the Ruins of Plataia, [[Ikaros]] helped her identify several herbs of note. |
| | *'''Kassandra:''' ''That's what I'm looking for.'' |
| | A pack of wolves set upon her, but she dealt with them and returned to examine the herbs. |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''That looks like hemlock.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''That looks like hemlock.'' |
| She picked a bunch and returned to Hippokrates in Thebes.
| | Kassandra picked a bunch of the hemlock and returned to Hippokrates. |
| | :'''Hemlock'''<br>''A bunch of herbs that Hippokrates requires in order to treat Pentheus. They smell very strange.'' |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I got the hemlock you wanted.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''I got the hemlock you wanted.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Thank you. I know this task was a little beneath you, but it will help my friend here.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Thank you. I know this task was a little beneath you, but it will help my friend here. I've prepared the elixir base, but I need you to grind the herb and add it to the mixture.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''I've prepared the elixir base, but I need you to grind the herb and add it to the mixture.''
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| *'''Kassandra:''' ''I think I can handle that.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''I think I can handle that.'' |
| Kassandra moved towards the table at the corner. | | Kassandra moved towards the table at the corner. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Be mindful of the amount you add. While the hemlock is an excellent pain inhibitor, too much can be lethal.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Be mindful of the amount you add. While the hemlock is an excellent pain inhibitor, too much can be lethal.'' |
| She talked to herself while finishing the mixture. | | She talked to herself while finishing the mixture. |
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| I'll add the right amount.= | | |-|I'll add the right amount.= |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Just as the doctor ordered.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Just as the doctor ordered.'' |
| A while later, after Hippokrates gave Pentheus the potion Kassandra finished, Kassandra joined Hippokrates as he observed Pentheus. | | A while later, after Hippokrates gave Pentheus the potion Kassandra finished, Kassandra joined Hippokrates as he observed Pentheus. |
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| |-|I'll add too much.= | | |-|I'll add too much.= |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Gods protect you, Pentheus.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Gods protect you, Pentheus.'' |
| A while later, after Hippokrates gave Pentheus the potion Kassandra finished, Hippokrates knelt down to check on him. All the while, Kassandra has her back turned, arms crossed. | | A while later, after Hippokrates had given Pentheus the potion Kassandra had mixed, Hippokrates knelt down to check on him. Kassandra kept her back turned, arms crossed. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Come now, Pentheus. We must check to see how your symptoms are progressing.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Come now, Pentheus. We must check to see how your symptoms are progressing.'' |
| Pentheus lay still, unresponsive. | | Pentheus lay still, unresponsive. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Pentheus?'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Pentheus? Pentheus?! What? What's happened? He shouldn't have died yet.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Pentheus?!''
| | Realizing what had transpired, Hippokrates turned his attention to Kassandra, incensed. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''What? What's happened? He shouldn't have died yet.''
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| After realizing what transpired, Hippokrates became infuriated and turned his attention to Kassandra.
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| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''What did you do?'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''What did you do?'' |
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| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''It wasn't your place. I needed more time—there was still more I could have learned.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''It wasn't your place. I needed more time—there was still more I could have learned.'' |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Keeping him alive so you can study him isn't right. He was in pain and wanted to die.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Keeping him alive so you can study him isn't right. He was in pain and wanted to die.'' |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''My job was to save his life, not end it. I chose to not help Galeos and I was wrong.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''My job was to save his life, not end it. I chose to not help [[Galeos]] and I was wrong.'' |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''You and I both know that's not why you kept him alive. Stop hiding the truth behind your code.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''You and I both know that's not why you kept him alive. Stop hiding the truth behind your code.'' |
| Kassandra struck a chord on Hippokrates and he paused for a moment. | | Kassandra struck a chord on Hippokrates and he paused for a moment. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''You're right. I knew I couldn't bring myself to end his life, but I thought the more I learned, the better chance I would have of saving others in the future.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''You're right. I knew I couldn't bring myself to end his life, but I thought the more I learned, the better chance I would have of saving others in the future.'' |
| *''Kassandra:''' ''It was a noble cause.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''It was a noble cause.'' |
| They both briefly looked down on the dead Pentheus. | | They both briefly looked down on the dead Pentheus. |
| *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Treating patients should come before studying ailments, but I have a higher calling. If I'm to learn all I can, I need to travel and analyze the conditions other physicians are treating.'' | | *'''Hippokrates:''' ''Treating patients should come before studying ailments, but I have a higher calling. If I'm to learn all I can, I need to travel and analyze the conditions other physicians are treating.'' |
| </tabber> | | </tabber> |
| | | Regardless, the two parted on good terms. |
| *'''Kassandra:''' ''Good luck, Hippokrates. I hope our paths cross again in the future.'' | | *'''Kassandra:''' ''Good luck, Hippokrates. I hope our paths cross again in the future.'' |
| Hippokrates smiled and nodded before she left. | | Hippokrates smiled and nodded before she left. |
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| ==Outcome== | | ==Outcome== |
| Kassandra helped Hippokrates make a sedative by harvesting Hemlock. Knowing how it can also be poisonous, she made a choice of whether to discreetly euthanize the terminally ill Pentheus, or let Hippokrates study his illness further. | | Kassandra helped Hippokrates make a sedative by harvesting hemlock. Knowing it to be poisonous, she made a choice of whether to discreetly euthanize the terminally ill Pentheus, or let Hippokrates study his illness further. |
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| | ==Behind the scenes== |
| | At the conclusion of this memory, the player may be able to recruit Hippokrates as a crew member aboard the ''[[Adrestia]],'' but this is dependent upon the correct dialogue choices being chosen in this quest chain; the earlier quests [[First Do No Harm]] and [[The Doctor Will See You Now]]; and lastly, throughout the Athens quest chain, which starts with with [[Abandoned By the Gods]] and ends with [[Athens's Last Hope]], |
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| | It is worth noting that it, in order to be able to recruit him later, it is '''crucial''' to not ask about Hippokrates's baldness during [[First Do No Harm]]; doing so will immediately render him ineligible to be recruited at the end of this memory. This is a very easy step to miss, because it happens through optional dialogue that isn't indicated as important to the outcome of the main quest line.<ref>[[First Do No Harm#Behind the scenes]]</ref> |
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| | Even if all the correct responses are chosen during the dependent quests, a bug can prevent Hippokrates from being recruited at the end of this memory. If this happens, the option to recruit him will be pushed it back until after the main story is completed. The option, if it appears after the end of this memory, will be upon completion of the side quest [[We Remember]], which becomes available after the last quest in the main storyline is completed.{{Cite|10 Dec 2020. Unconfirmed}} |
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| | ==Gallery== |
| | <gallery position="center"> |
| | ACOD Too Much of a Good Thing 2.png|Hippokrates informing Kassandra of hemlock, a possible ingredient for lessening the pain |
| | ACOD_Boeotia_-_bridge_north_of_the_Ruins_of_Plataia.png|The bridge and two hemlock plants on each side of the river. |
| | ACOD_-_Hemlock_sedative.png|Kassandra makes a choice of whether to overdose the sedative. |
| | </gallery> |
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| ==References== | | ==References== |
| *''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' | | *''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' |
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| {{ACODMemories}} | | {{ACODMemories}} |
| [[Category:Memories of Kassandra]] | | [[Category:Memories of Kassandra]] |
| [[Category:Memories relived using the Animus HR-8.5]] | | [[Category:Memories relived using the Animus HR-8.5]] |