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Sources

We have sources for the things mntioned in this database? Like, Ezio and Altaïr birth is stated, but the time Mario was born and/or made condotiero were fact-checked? -- D. Cello 18:47, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Federico Auditore da Firenze

All of his links were broken, linking to a certain "Frederico" I've not heard of. Went through and fixed them, linking them to his page and correcting the spelling of his name. AgentValentine 05:26, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Contradictions

This is the timeline of the Assassin's Creed universe, no? If so then shouldn't we keep the history of this timeline with only what happens in the AC games, or at least not insert historical information that contradicts with information related to AC. For example there are two dates of when Robert De Sable dies, the AC death and his actual historical death. Shouldn't we only put the death in that happened in the AC wiki to avoid such contradictions? -- Altaïr 15:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely right, Al. -- D. Cello 15:31, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of certain facts

This timeline is getting really big. One thing I think is totally irrelevant if for example when Xerxes is born. I don't think that's important to know. The most important date to know is when he was killed, cause this is about the assassin who killed him, not the one who is killed necessarily. If the character appeared in one of the games, that's another story. -- Altaïr 21:53, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

People are editing this thing so much because of Badges x.x I agree, Al. Only relevant stuff should be kept. -- D. Cello 20:55, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should keep in account how big this list could become. I mean how are we going to chose what's important or not. You saw me removing that Leo painted the Mona Lisa. But one day I removed many historical facts of Leo's life. Other paintings. Leo who had to appear before court. Other facts which don't appear or are not even metionned in ACII. And there are many historical figures where we could add facts from which we don't even see or hear about. Where do we pull the line, if we allow these things to be added? -- Altaïr 04:12, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Centuries

Another thing I had in mind is changing the content list. I think we should add centuries and make them into categories for in the contents, so that the list isn't so long and is easier to browse into. -- Altaïr 22 02, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Centuries as two equals (==) ,years as three (===) and dates as four (====). -- D. Cello 20:56, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

First Disaster

What is that? -- D. Cello 02:08, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

It is referring to what Minerva mentioned at the end of ACII. She said that, with their time occupied fighting the Humans, THCB failed to realize that something bad was about to happen. And so, they didn't have time to protect the planet before, what is presumed to be a solar flare, killed off all but a few of both species. But, wit their numbers too low, THCB died off, with Humans taking over as sole "owners" of Earth. A.J. two 02:15, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

yeah, I remember that now (thanks AJ). We should create a page about it then. -- D. Cello 02:31, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

done. At least a stub for expansion. A.J. two 03:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Changing Before Christ and Anno Domini

I've mentioned this before, but does anyone agree with me about changing the timeline abrivations to BCE and CE? I just personally think it would be more appropriate since the abriviation BCE is used in "the Truth" video. Lunatic Enlighten Me 17:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hidden blade - Desmond

Hey, doesnt Desmond receive the hidden blade on the 9th September 2012?

Ezio27 04:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Irrelevant. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Leonardo joining the Borgia

Leonardo has already joined the Borgia by 1499/1500, so i changed it from 1501 to 1499. (Gameplay video) Cesare to one of his accomplice, "Give me the gun his friend fashioned for us.."

(Vatsa1708 10:21, November 16, 2010 (UTC))

Ezio's Healing 1499

Niccolo Machiavelli doesn't nurse Ezio. He believes Ezio to be killed during the villa attack. (Vatsa1708 10:33, November 16, 2010 (UTC))

Edit: Niccolo later reveals that he brought Ezio to Rome..

(Vatsa1708 16:21, November 18, 2010 (UTC))

Irrelevant. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

10th October 2012

The date Desmond, Lucy et al went to Il Colosseo shouldn't be listed under Unknown Date, Lucy says the date is 10th October, 72 days before the planned launch of the Eye Abstergo. JohnMoore 00:19, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Interbreeding

Shouldn't the interbreeding start before the first disaster and the theft of the apple by Adam and Eve? Cause i always thought Adam and Eve were the first result of interbreeding. How could they steal the apple if it didn't affect them less than other humans?EXistenZ! 10:06, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

You make a good point here but there are two possibilities I see for this:

They [Adam and Eve] 'evolved' either due to gradual immunisation to the POEs controlling powers, or Adam and Eve may simply have been 'made' wrong by TWCB getting sloppy, Not hard to imagine considering they were lazy enough to create Humans in the first place to do their work for them as tools...
Subject AMDR 15:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah i always thought that Adam and eve were results of interbreeding, like one of TWCB had a ride with a human slave. Cause many ancient myths talk about gods and humans having intercourse, with sometimes demi-gods as a result (herakles being the most famous). And then they rebelled against their creators (a bit like how Prometheus stole the fire from the Gods) But it's true, we don't actually know when the interbreeding began. EXistenZ! 20:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Contents

Isin't there any way to remove the serial numbers from the contents. Or put a period after them. They almost seem to be a part of the dates. Like 6 6th Century be made to 6. 6th Century etc.

Editing the AC Timeline

How are we to edit this timeline if it's locked? (There are some small grammar/style errors I'd like to fix, but it appears I can't.) Danielhonigman 20:45, January 23, 2011 (UTC)Daniel

It's only locked for new and unregistered contributors. So either check your internet browser or get yourself of the imaginary "new users list". -- Master Sima Yi 09:22, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Giovanni Borgia

How can Giovanni Borgia have been born before Savonarola was murdered, since when Perotto arrived at the Vatican, the Pope received a message saying that Girolamo had been assassinated in Florence, and only after a time Perotto had a romance with Lucrezia. Zac Skywalker 11:58, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Either the developers made a mistake or Giovanni's birth date differs in the AC universe. But in history, Giovanni Borgia was born in March 1498 and Savonarola was executed on 23 May 1498. -- Master Sima Yi 14:25, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

"Unfortunate Secretary"

Was reading up on the Timeline page and then the page on Daniel Cross... someone had updated on the recent comic on Daniel Cross going to Abstergo and killing an "unfortunate secretary"... I'm assuming that might be Leila Marino? His events on the Timeline don't have a specific date, so I'm assuming that the murder of the Mentor up to Daniel's return to Abstergo was during 2007, that Leila was the secretary he killed before they put him back into the Animus (on accident? or maybe not, since Warren implied that Lucy was going to end up like her if she kept meddling)

Just a thought, from an avid reader. 69.112.8.43 13:53, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Daniel does not kill any such person. Daniel returned to Abstergo in 2000. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Two Maliks?

Am I reading it wrong or missing something because Malik Al-Sayf is written but underneth it, it says Malik A-Sayf. Both links lead to Malik Al-Sayf. which one is the correct date and which one is the correct spelling? Girlaloud05 09:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Probably just a typo... Mr. Cujo 16:49, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Robert de Sable's assassination

It ocurred before Al Mualim's death, before Altair conceiving a child and before Altair finishing the Codex. Obvious reason: We played Robert De Sable's assassination, which we couldn't have if Altair had already had a child. Changing it now. AlexArkham 19:58, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why templates?

Do we have to use templates to define the tabber contents? It makes eidting the single page cumbersome. Smoke3723 23:46, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Barack Obama

Is Obama a Templar or an assassin I'd really like to find that out? If any body wants to know I'm Le Vulpe (too lazy to sign in)

I dont see Obama being an Assassin. some of the laws he has tried to pass would dictate free rights, somthing the Assassins stive for.

I disagree. I see Obama as being initially supported by the Assassins over McCain, what with his promise to investigate the Templar Bush... but then it turned out he was a covert Templar, thus his continuing the Osama Bin Laden affair... and eventually allows a nation-wide hunt for assassins through his sudden jump in national security.108.13.198.58 07:54, March 10, 2012 (UTC) Lord Coratus

Important thing to note is that any currently living person or real person that lived in the later half of the 20th century is neither an Assassin or Templar. The Templars manipulated people, but that's all they were, puppets. George W. Bush was a Templar puppet, as revealed in The Fall and the Brotherhood Clusters. James Morse's e-mail on abstergoindustries.com shows that Warren had a meeting in the Blair House, a presidential residence, in December 2010, when Obama already was the President. So Obama was definitely influenced by Abstergo and the Templars, but he most likely isn't aware of the Templars' existence. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sima's right, and I definitely think the Templars are trying to keep him in Presidency since there's been speculation that his opposition Ron Paul is going through election fraud. Arcemz ^{Something on your mind?} 07:16, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Brotherhood - Unknown Dates

Don't we know the dates corresponding to the time Desmond spent reliving Ezio's memories of Rome via the e-mails? The e-mails in Brotherhood are dated from September 29th-October 9th, 2012 and are recieved throughout the period that the Assassins spend in the Sanctuary. GuruGuru214 07:09, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

list of modern day assassins and Templar's

i think there need's to be a few more modern day people on the list of assassins and templars.

Templars:

• Muammar gaddafi
• Barack Obama
• Al Gore
• Steven Hawking

Assassins

• Ron Paul
• Pat Tillman (the football player who died in iraq)
• Ernest Hemingway (July 21, 1899 – July 2, 1961)

i hope to add to this list after more research

Except that The Fall tells us that Gore was an ally to the Assassins. He lost the election to Bush, the Templar puppet, because of the Mentor's death in 2000 -- Vaxis Dec 19 2.58AM

Do you honestly think we are gonna add speculation to this page? -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Tell them Sima. Everything Vaxis just said seems like speculation. If you just glance at his post it reads: Democrats and Dictators = Templars & Republicans and Revered People = Assassins

and that is without a doubt false. plus they are neither... we don't have to label everyone assassin or templar, there is a neutral zone. Solo assassin 00:26, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

someone push the wrong button?

"October 10th marks 62 days until the satellite launch, making a significant to the number 72. " WRONG, that would be 72 days excatly since there's 31 days in October, 30 in November and the launch is on the 21st. (or in Math terms 31+30+11=72) -71.202.72.88 00:31, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Minor error

It says that CIA driver William Greer used the fourth apple... incorrect. He was under the influence of the second apple. And Oswald used the first apple to make an illusion. Remember the fourth apple seemingly disappears after Hitler is assassinated. -- Vaxis Dec 20 2011 2:23 AM

I'm not finished yet... -- Master Sima Yi 08:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Carlo Grimaldi

Just thought I'd point out that in the 1485 section, Carlo Grimaldi's name is spelled wrong, making a link broken. I can't fix it since the page is locked, so can whoever can edit it please fix it. Howling Snail 11:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Change the Timeline page back to the what it was before

I Think that we should change the Timeline page but to the way it was before because there is a lot of information that is missing that was there like what Ezio did in Rome between 1500 - 1503 and also and lot of information on other Assassin Creed related events what do you guys think.

Rukia202 09:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for not noticing the "WORKING revamp" template up top... I am still working on it. Sorry that it's taking so long, but I will make sure that all available information will be on it when I am done. -- Master Sima Yi 10:09, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Vieri De' Pazzi

Despite the portrait of Vieri de' Pazzi saying that he died in 1477, ther DNA folder and everything else says that he died in 1478. Howling Snail 20:31, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Er... what? -- Master Sima Yi 20:35, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think they meant that you listed Vieri's death under 1477, while most sources state that it was in 1478.

I came here for just this purpose, hence the lack of a new section.

Also, do you think we could use tabber codes to help navigation? Or is there a better way? Crimson Knight _Intercom 21:05, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Conflicting sources on that as well, but Encyclopedia says 1478. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 21:14, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Worng year

the Year for the American Revolution started in 1775 not 1763 as is stated in the timeline page Assassin80 01:20, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

I concur. The French and Indian War ended in 1763. The opening shots of the American Revolution were in 1775. Can a higher-ranking editor please make the fix? AOHistSupport 20:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Master Sima Yi! AOHistSupport 21:08, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal - permanent lock

Seeing as people seem to be rather fond of adding their own fiction, speculation and assumption to this page, and that they never source their information, and continuously write everything in present tense while the entire article is in past tense, I would like to propose a permanent lock on this page. This may not be in line with "a database that everyone can edit," but the way it is right now is doing more harm than good. When people actually notice that something is wrong, they tend to mention it here on the talk page rather than actually changing it. Personally I think it would save a lot of work undoing all these bad edits for us if we simply lock the page. I'm already personally making sure the page is updated with any new information that is released, or anything else that needs to be changed. If somebody notices an error, an admin can be notified to make the change. I think an exception can easily be made for this page, and I find it to be very necessary. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal has been accepted. Vote is now closed. -- Master Sima Yi 16:16, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yay

1. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
2. -- <choose><option>http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/prototype/images/thumb/4/4f/SigN1v.png/70px-SigN1v.png</option></choose> _{(<choose><option>http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120508142109/prototype/images/thumb/0/09/SigT1v.png/30px-SigT1v.png</option></choose> • <choose><option>http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120508142108/prototype/images/thumb/4/40/SigG1v.png/35px-SigG1v.png</option></choose>)} 13:15, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
3. Goes against wiki concept but seems necessary..information that needs to added can be first posted here in the talk page or in Sima's or Vatsa's talk page by other users.--Odranoelluta^{Talk✲<choose><option>http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel-cinematic-universe/images/1/18/Sig.png</option></choose>} 13:19, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
4. Well, I was going to say "Allow only the admins to edit it," but seeing as you'll be able to, it kind of make my statement moot. With this in mind, I agree. Slate Vesper 13:22, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
5. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig ^{Funk Man's Funky House of Funk} 13:31, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
6. -- IlMualim ^{Wanna Chat?} 14:41, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
7. -- Stormbeast ^{The Helpful Place} 16:23, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
8. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 16:32, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
9. A small, but necessary sacrifice for order. The Leaping Eagle 21:11, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
10. -- Arcemz ^{Something on your mind?} 08:04, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Nay

Comments

Haras

I was under the impression that he was a mole for the Templars, since he states "I cannot betray those I never truly loved." The Leaping Eagle 21:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

That sentence does not imply as such. It simply means that he was an Assassin, but not at heart. He became dissatisfied with the Assassins and the slow progress he made as an apprentice. -- Master Sima Yi 21:28, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

DoB

I was wondering why Ezio's DoD is stated, while his DoB isnt. The Leaping Eagle (talk) 14:48, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Because the Timeline is written from a universal perspective, and on a universal scale, Ezio's dob wasn't significant. Not to mention that adding all dobs would clutter the Timeline with boring and insignificant information. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 14:55, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I see. Well, I admire that you're making this page; it can't be very easy. The Leaping Eagle (talk) 20:26, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

1488

couple of things, first theres a superflous 'the' before Checco's name presumably a vestige of it having refered to the orsi brothers together instead of naming each? also The city was eventually sieged by the Templars, until Ezio Auditore infiltrated the city and helped to reclaim it dosent quite feel right, if it was reclaimed by ezio surely it would make more sense if seiged was replacd with seized? Ægritudo _Talk 02:18, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, those were typos. Thanks for pointing them out, will fix them now. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 10:22, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

2002

Just wanted to point out: "returned back" is grammatically incorrect as the "back" is redundant. "Daniel Cross returned to society" sounds nicer. Great work on the page by the way. =) ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 18:24, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Changed. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:25, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Typo

In the 2010 section: "Shaun was recued by the AssassinRebecca Crane.", should be 'rescued'.

And wouldn't this page benefit from a Table of Contents? Crimson Knight _Intercom 18:27, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Also changed. And I don't think you are aware of how large the Table of Contents is, and how unorganized it is. I still need to come up with an alternative for it. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:29, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Uh...yeah. I kind of feel stupid now... Crimson Knight _Intercom 18:31, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps a custom made ToC with collapsible headers dividing centuries? Or something like the wiki navigation templates, only instead of being at the bottom, it would be at the top, and serve as a ToC. Just a couple of suggestions... ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 18:35, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it could be like 2012 Conversations? Slate Vesper (talk) 18:46, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mini-spellcheck

I've run a small spellcheck on the page. Here's what turned up:

• Prehistory: para 1, "inhabitors" -> "inhabitants"; para 5, "existinquishing" "extinguishing"
• 259: para 5, "panick" -> "panic"
• 1191: para 6, "Ibn-la'Ahad" -> "Ibn-La'Ahad"
• 1498: para 1, "reobtained" -> "re-obtained"
• 1887: para 2, "Mina Bergson" -> "Moina Bergson" My bad.
• 1919: para 1, Federal Bureau of investigation -> should be internal link instead of Wikipedia.
• 1954: para 1, "Abstero" -> "Abstergo"
• 1985: para 1, "labelling" -> "labeling"
• 2010: para 2, "Abtergo" -> "Abstergo"
• 2012: para 5, "restabilizing" -> "re-stabilizing"

Hope I helped =) ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 10:55, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

A few things concerning the last edit:

• Prehistory: para 1, "inhibitors" -> "inhabitants"
• 44 BCE: "Liberators" -> "Liberatores"
• 1985: para 1, "labelling" -> "labeling" (unless we're using British spelling, in which case, it's fine.)

Thank you. ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 11:31, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merge AC Initiates Data?

I think we should merge all data from the ac initiates timeline into this article. Im also locked out from editing it. America's mentor (talk) 01:55, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

nevermind just saw permanent lock. America's mentor (talk) 01:58, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

I will put everything up there in due time, do not worry. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 15:42, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

American Revolution events

There are a couple of events from the American Revolution that you have left out. These include: Boston Massacre, Boston Tea Party, and Paul Revere's midnight ride. The Dark Knight (talk) 00:01, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

They'll be added once we know about them in more detail, which is after the game comes out. ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 04:02, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

I will add them as soon as I can. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 15:43, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Expanded

i have an edit for the 2012 time line

2012: the American Revolution: Desmond goes back into the cinima and is now reliving the memories of Connor. Annamery Auditore (talk) 19:38, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

...Into the what? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 19:41, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

You know, the cinima. And you're meant to be the 'crat of this place, jeez. I think Annamery should go ahead and just take the fuck over

WHO'S WITH ME? Toppers (talk) 19:43, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

umm. i know about the cinima because of the games and well what i am stateing is not false.i have not only done some resurch but i have also seen the game be played. now i am not saying that any of you have called me a liar but i just thought i would put that out there. and might i add it is very interesting. i must give the assassins creed creatored props for the awsome time line in the story. i cant wait for assassins creed 4. it will be a realy awsome one if they keep going down this path. 7:54 AM December 10 2012

The Revolution and Assassin's Creed III

I have noticed that no one has even tried to begin adding entries to this subject. I am willing to volunteer entries to the timeline which I have saved to file ...

Frenchy Auditore (talk) 08:27, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Correction

In the 1770 section, it says "hidden blades". Shouldn't it be "Hidden Blades"?

Not the most dire situation, but, you know. Crimson Knight _Intercom 00:02, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Like "Throwing Knives" and "Swords"? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 10:40, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

No, Hidden Blade is a proper noun, it's different to swords and throwing knives.

Don't ask me why, I've just accepted it. Crimson Knight _Intercom 14:54, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Conflicting sources on that. I don't see why it would be capitalized, so I won't bother. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 21:08, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Crimson Knight _Intercom 21:09, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

In April 1783, Ratonhnhaké:ton finds the Apple of Eden in the abandoned village Kanatahséhton (his village). And meets Juno once again. —unsigned comment by AdrienneW (talk · contr)

Yes, you are correct, will add that now. Though it is actually a Crystal Ball, not an Apple of Eden. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 20:22, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

2012 Events (Desmond's death) Needed

This article has no information on the events leading up to Desmond's death. They need to be added. (Toolen (talk) 19:22, May 25, 2013 (UTC))

It will be added as soon as possible. Only Sima has access to the page, if not Nesty or Vatsa. Slate Vesper (talk) 19:48, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

1491 and 1492

Didn't Ezio kill Gaspar Martínez, Pedro Llorente and Juan de Marillo in 1491 not 1492, I checked in the Assassins page under the section Known victims of Ezio Auditore da Firenze and it said 1491. It's either the Assassins page is wrong or the Timeline is wrong. HunterGff (talk) 01:06, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Francisco Pizarro

This guy's name is misspelled. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:25, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Fifth century BCE

Do we not need a redirect for Assassins? "Assassin's Hidden Blade". Altaïr Skywalker 47 (talk) 16:02, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dates for Bloodlines

Where did you get the dates for the events of Assassin's Creed Bloodlines? I was under the impression that the events of the game all took place in 1191. (Toolen (talk) 00:43, September 19, 2013 (UTC))

Well you would be wrong, I am afraid. Altaïr's Chronicles takes place in 1190; Assassin's Creed (1) takes place the year after, in 1991; and Bloodlines, which features the real-life Armand Bouchart (who died after 1192). --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:31, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know he was real. So he died in 1192, but in the Timeline Altair killed him in 1193. So there is still error. In the book "Secret Crusade" there is information that 2 years after the events on Cyprus Altair and Maria got married. So 1191+2 = 1193. In "AC Encyclopedia" there is sentence on 74th page "They eventually married in 1193 and had two sons, Darim ans Sef".

But I still think Bouchart was killed in 1192, not 1193. Am I right? 109.207.159.246 12:33, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

First edition or second edition? Because my 74th page is the beginning entry of The Renaissance. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 12:53, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Second edition. Please look here >> Section 2 Story >> Middle Ages, Cyprus. You can find there this sentence. I think you should correct date of this marriage on the page of Altair, Maria, date of birth of Darim (1193, not 1195) and Sef (1195, not 1197), and date of death of Bouchart (1192, not 1193) 109.207.159.246 12:58, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

While I can confirm that the Encyclopedia says they married in 1193, it does not state when Darim or Sef were born. So, to clarify: Bloodlines spans from 1191 to 1193, with the death of Armand Bouchart in 1193; Altair and Maria married in 1193; Darim and Sef stay the same. Someone else will have to confirm the info from The Secret Crusade as I do not have it on me right now. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 13:03, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Death of Bouchard was in 1192, not 93!!! >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Bouchart The dates of birth of Darim and Sef are also in Secret Crusade. At the beginning of section 4, in chapter 48, there is info that two years after events in Cyprus they got married and had son (1191+2= 1193), and two years later second son (1193+2 = 1195). Just check it and please, correct the dates in every article about them, oki? :) 109.207.159.246 13:12, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Again, we're going to check this over and confirm it before we do anything hasty. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 13:14, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Besides, we don't use Wikipedia when it contradicts with what is established in the AC series, and ordering that we fix something is not becoming either. In fact, if you talk down to us, we're less likely to listen to you. Slate Vesper (talk) 13:17, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thank you :) I've just create account. I've added information about errors in articles about: Altair, Maria, Darmin, Sef and Bouchard. And of course Timeline should be corrected. The secion about year 1193 should be move to 1192 and in 1193 should be info about marriage and birth of the Darim. Cez24 (talk) 13:19, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Slate Vesper >> but at the beggining of this topic one of the users posted link to wikipedia. I was wrong about date of death of Bouchart. It was AFTER 1192. So if Altair and Maria got marriade in 1193 so Bouchart had to be killed in 1193. Sorry, my mistake. So I think right now, that: AC: Bloodlines take place between 1191 and 1193. Marriage was in 1193, not in 95. Darim was born in 1193, not 95. And Sef was born in 1195, not 97. That's all :) Cez24 (talk) 13:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

That's probably just the WP-REAL template. It's probably put there because Armand Bouchart is a real-life individual, and serves to link his proper historical page to the AC representation of him. That does not mean that any conflicting information on Wikipedia gets precedence. Slate Vesper (talk) 13:27, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I think 1195 - Darim's date of birth and marriage of his parents on AC Wiki was accepted because "Secret Crusade" told us that it was 2 years after events on Cyprus. So if Bouchart was killed in 1193 + 2 = 1195. But Encyclopedia says it is wrong deduction, because these 2 years we should add to the year 1191, not 93. 1191 + 2 = 1193 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia. Cez24 (talk) 13:35, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article I linked to above does not say Bouchart died in 1192; it doesn't give a date for his death at all. In AC canon, Bouchart was killed in 1193. 1193 + 2 = 1195 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 15:42, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

"In AC canon, Bouchart was killed in 1193" - it's not the canon, it's deduction - please write the source where you think it was said it's canon. "1195 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia." - unfortunately not - as I said - the date of marriage confirmed in Encyclopedia is 1193, not 1195! Please check in this book. Cez24 (talk) 08:32, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Something else; the database in Revelations clearly states Darim and Sef's birthdates, 1995 and 1997 respectively. If there's conflicting information within canon, the information straight from the games overrules other sources such as the novels. As for Bouchart, I don't know, I haven't played the game, nor do I have the encyclopedia. However, I request you be a little more patient, as well as polite. Your spamming of the RA feed by raising the same topic on multiple talkpages will not move along your query any faster and is, frankly, annoying. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 10:15, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's not spam. I've written information about this in every article which should be corrected. I thought it would be ok. Sorry if it is forbidden, I'm new here and didn't know. So right now confirmed information is: Darim's and Sef's birthday - 1195 and 1197. Death of Bouchard in 1193 and marriage of Altair and Maria in 1193. So only this marraige date is incorrect on AC Wiki, the rest is ok. Please check it in AC Encyclopedia and correct bio of Altair's and Maria's with this correct date of their marriage.Cez24 (talk) 10:27, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

You should've chosen one talkpage, or two at the most, to raise this issue, not six of them. Your source for the marriage being in 1993? The encyclopedia? I can't check that, since I don't have it, and I'd rather not make an edit without being entirely sure. I know it might seem annoying if it takes a while, but this Wiki tends to have its share of vandals, so if new users such as yourself come along with new information, the administrators like to double-check, just in case ^^; So for now, I suggest we wait until Jasca or Storm or someone else confirms their marriage was in 1993, not 1995. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 10:37, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

1193, not 1993 hehe ;) Ok, I understand. I have an idea, I can show you this page :) >> Image Cez24 (talk) 11:32, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

So... did you confirm this? :) I've checked and in the 1st edition of Encyclopedia there is also date 1193. Cez24 (talk) 23:00, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

I just read The Secret Crusade. It states that Altair and Maria wed two years after the events on Cyprus. What does the encyclopedia say? Does it explicitly state that Altair and Maria wed almost immediately after the liberation of Cyprus? All that page in the encyclopedia says is that they married in 1193. Does it give the date elsewhere? If not, then I would go with what it says in The Secret Crusade.

I've written about this :) I unserstand "Secret Crusade" like that: 1191 - the year of beginning adventure on Cyrpus + 2 years = 1193 - the year when there was marriage. Confirmation of this date is Encyclopedia, scan I posted. And Encyclopedia is better source than novel. Why? Because last chapters of "Secret Crusade" is much different than events presented in Altair's memories in AC: Revelations game. So... when will you change the date in articles? I'm waiting one week right now :D Cez24 (talk) 09:53, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

You're not changing anything. The date of their marriage has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the date of Darim's birth. They married in 1193, Darim was born in 1195, and Sef in 1197. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 10:04, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

He's talking about the date of marriage; in the articles it says 1195, while here, you and he are apparently agreeing on it being in 1193. I think that's the only actual change to be made. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 10:21, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm talking only about date of marriage - 1193 not 1195 :) Please, correct it! Cez24 (talk) 10:36, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what the hell he's talking about anymore. If we're apparently agreeing on it, then I suppose I support it being changed. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 10:51, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'm talking about correcting date of Altair's and Maria's marriage in articles and in Timeline :) Cez24 (talk) 11:20, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Revelations database says Darim was born in 1195. The Secret Crusade says Darim was born two years after his parents' marriage. They were married only shortly after the events of Bloodlines. He is incorrect. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 11:26, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

That would place the marriage in 1193 (in accordance with the Encyclopaedia); whereas Maria and Altair's articles state the marriage was in 1195. It looks as if he is correct, about that particular point at least. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:49, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

I think there is no need to dabate about this, because the proof is here >> Image That's why I'm waiting someone would correct it in articles about Altair, Maria and Timeline ;) Cez24 (talk) 13:40, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

You said... --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 10:28, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Why confirmation of this takes so long? :O I've added myself this date 1193 to the bio of Altair and Maria but without source because I don't know how to put the source to the text. Please add AC: Encyclopedia as a source. And please add information about marriage in 1193 to the Timeline - I can't edit this article. Cez24 (talk) 09:44, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

You were always quite welcome to make the changes yourself. You can find sourcing instructions here. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 09:47, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

I'm trying but there is error :( >> http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Maria_Thorpe#Settling_down Source nr 4. How to do it correct? And how to edit Timeline article? Cez24 (talk) 09:58, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

The encyclopedia article says they were married in 1193, it doesn't say anything about the events of Bloodlines ending in 1193. Also, where does it say that Altair and Maria married immediately following the events of Bloodlines? I don't recall any official source stating that. In fact, on page 252 of Secret Crusade Marco Polo mentions that the marriage happened two years after the events on Cyprus. This seems to indicate that the entirety of the game took place in 1191. (Toolen (talk) 22:43, October 21, 2013 (UTC))

You are correct, TSC does say that. On page 363 of the original book, however. I got it mixed up for some reason. However, this does not change the date of the Bloodlines events; it only changes the date of the wedding, as on that same page it says that shortly after their wedding their son Darim was born. ACR confirms that Darim was born in 1195, so the wedding was around 1195 as well. Bloodlines ended in 1193. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:51, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

No, the encyclopedia clearly states that they were married in 1193. Since TSC states that the wedding happened two years later, that means the events of Bloodlines were confined to 1191, and possibly 1192. Armand Bouchart's death was in either 1191 or 1192. Personally, I favor the former date, but if anyone has evidence it was the latter date, please post it here. Toolen (talk) 18:39, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

Your proof? The Encyclopedia has been wrong before. Slate Vesper (talk) 22:13, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

'Siege of Acre' redlink

Couldn't we just have the redlink go the article 'Third Crusade'? The hyperlinked content will appear as 'Siege of Acre', but will lead to the link http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Third_Crusade. Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 13:14, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Modern Day

I was just wondering where 90 percent of AC3 and all of ACIV are on the timeline?

Moneymop (talk) 15:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

About the happenings in Abstergo Entertainment

Shouldn't be the happenings in Abstergo in 2013 here?

Cheers,

AgentG231 (talk) 11:38, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Structural corrections in the 2012 section

I was reading through the 2012 section, and wish to note potential improvements to the following passages:

• Now: Clay uploaded an AI copy of his subconscious into the Animus for his successor to find and painted cryptic messages on the wall of his cell using his own blood before committing suicide due to the mental incapability of controlling the overlapping personalities the bleeding effect caused.
• Corrected: Clay uploaded an AI copy of his subconscious into the Animus for his successor to find and painted cryptic messages on the wall of his cell using his own blood. He then committed suicide due to the acute mental stress of controlling the overlapping personalities the bleeding effect caused.

• Now: With the aid of Daniel Cross, Desmond Miles was tracked down and abducted by Abstergo Industries following the discovery a fingerprint Desmond had made for a motorcycle license to take part in the Animus Project, which dubbed him as Subject 17. Forced to relive the memories of his ancestor Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad to acquire a map detailing all the Pieces of Eden, Desmond eventually escaped Abstergo with the help ofLucy Stillman, an undercover Assassin operative, and took up shelter in a hideout in Rome with Shaun Hastings and Rebecca Crane to make Desmond relive the memories of his ancestor Ezio Auditore da Firenze.
• Corrected: With the aid of Daniel Cross, Desmond Miles was tracked down and abducted by Abstergo Industries (following the discovery of a fingerprint Desmond had made for a motorcycle license) to take part in the Animus Project as Subject 17. He was forced to relive the memories of his ancestor Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad to aid Abstergo in acquiring a map detailing the locations of all the Pieces of Eden. However, Desmond eventually escaped with the help of Lucy Stillman, taking up shelter in a hideout in Rome with Shaun Hastings and Rebecca Crane. The Assassins then tasked Desmond with reliving the memories of his ancestor Ezio Auditore da Firenze to acquire his skills and memories.

Molotov.cockroach (talk) 03:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I liked to own timeline

IDA about the new time line because you have completely (Don't mean to Christie) the events of black flag I compound find Edward Kenways exploits like who he came to be marooned in the Caribbean in 1715 --Owen1983 (talk) 23:53, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

What are you talking about? --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 00:29, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

when are you going to upload the ending events of AC3 and all the events of AC4.....all events of AC4 are missing......

The Timeline is currently being rewritten and will detail all events. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 11:17, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Thankyou and sorry for my english

Updated with new information

and could you pls tell me that where are the following events in the story of "brotherhood" :

1.) abstergo industries founded....where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 20 in the timeline

2.) On 7 June, English mathematician and computer scientist Alan Turing was killed on orders of his former contractors Abstergo Industries, after having made a computers despite orders given to him to only make a fake robot for the press.....where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 21 in the timeline

3.) The Chilean president Salvador Allende was overthrown in an Abstergo-orchestrated coup d'état masterminded by Henry Kissinger. Allende's communistic regime was replaced by a military junta and later by Augusto Pinochet.......where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 24 in the timeline

4.) Shaun was rescued by the AssassinRebecca Crane........where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 28 in the timeline....i remember it being in AC2

5.) Warren Vidic started the Animi Training Program to train Abstergo operatives in combat, aiming to use them to combat the Assassin remnants.......where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 30 in the timeline

6.) In 2010, Abstergo Industries experimented on Subject 15 for the Animus Project. Due to Subject 15 being pregnant, the memories of both her and the fetus' father were conflicting, resulting in overlapping memories in the Animus...where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 27 in the timeline

i cheked up them by opening their links and they were not in rifts but in the story.....so could u pls tell me where are they and when r u ging to upload the ending events of AC3 and all the events of AC4....

122.161.236.27 10:59, August 11, 2014 (UTC)jayam

You're only looking at half of the references. Shaun being rescued by Rebecca and the story of Subject 15 are revealed in the emails from www.abstergoindustries.com. The Animi Training Program is from the multiplayer of Brotherhood. Everything else is from the Rifts in Brotherhood. The Rifts are part of Brotherhood story as much as anything else. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 11:20, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

And if you would take a look here, you'd see that I am currently in the process of revamping the Timeline, with all events from all games, and in a format that can easily be updated. New releases will be automatically added to the Timeline henceforth. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 12:29, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

to master sima yi

are u in the process of making a new timeline or have u completed it beacuase the one u sent me to see (the sandbox) does not have many events of AC1 and bloodline and so on.......and i understand that u will updat the info of new releases like rogue and unity

122.161.33.99 09:21, August 15, 2014 (UTC)jayam

Sima is away until Sunday, but yes, he's still working on updating the Timeline. If there's things you're worried he might miss, you can always leave a comment on the talkpage of that sandbox he previously sent you to. For now though, I think it's probably best to be patient; making a list of all the major events in this franchise is a pretty arduous task. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 09:29, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

I must ask. How come everything that's happened in AC4, from 1715-1721, isn't included in the timeline? Hell, add in everything that happened in Freedom Cry as well.Kawaiineko333 (talk) 18:18, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Please take a look here. I'm revamping the entire article, but I've been taking a bit too long on it. It'll be up soon! -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information

hey master sima yi.......i have a question for u.......i was surfing the net for the assassins creed story explained........and i found a no. of videos.......all of which were based on theories on what might happen in unity....

one video stated that when 16 said he was too weak and must replenish enery and he would tell him later and all that crap at the end of brohood ...he meant that he was too weak and he couldnt explain everything bt after tht he comes back again and gives desmond his memory or something like that in the black room and that is how he got to know what to do next............and he crated a clone of himself like al mualim and ezio........to trick templars and he still lived so he could work on killing juno but the clone was still alive and the sample pary unknowigly kille him that is why shaun and rebecca went to abstergo to check out what had happened to the clone.....

another stated the same thing and said that desmonds body and 16's mind was destroyed but desmond's mind still lived....so in unity desmond will contact modern day assassins ....his frnds and dad and tell them the truth through glyphs like 16 did

another video explained what the words of juno in the vault meant....only she remains to be found......and stated that after desmond's death the assassins would find the descendant of eve as her dna was the key to stop eve as stated in the end of liberation......

another bullshit video stated that lucy was a sleeper agent and she wasnt betraying the assassins on purpose...that is bullshit ...inst it.....cause in project siren i saw her discussing her plans with vidic....

another bullshit video stated that when 16 said the sun your sun at the end of brohood he meant desmonds son which lucy would be carrying.....thats why juno murdered lucy as it also stated that lucy was the descendant of eve and by killing her she killed desmond and lucy's son and the assassins now could stop juno either by reviving lucy with the ankh.....or finding another descendant or by taking her sample....its next part stated that the templars, because of the bleeding effect could make an army of master assassins under their control and learnt how to use the observatory and they could open it by the sage's body (john) and they know hoe to use the observatory and they have the ankh needed by the assassins to revive lucy so they could defeat juno.....this is bullshit right?????????

but then i watched the initiates video......and in that i came to know why exactly shaun and rebecca went to abstergo....(to check what abstergo plan to do with desmonds body) and that the eve descendant theory is true (only she remains to be found) as the video states that gavin met a female assassin who pretended to have came in contact with eve.......

so my question is this.....why did 16 say "the sun, your sun" and why did juno kill lucy?? she didnt kill her because she betrayed the assassins cause juno hated humans especially desmond...i think...then why did she kill her.....was it beacuse of that bullshit theory of lucy carrying desmond's child and her being a descendant of eve.....i dont think so because that is bullshit...but what do you think...

and dou you think that the desmond being saved by 16 and creating a clone theory mght be true....or dou you think desmond talking through glyphs theory might be true......

and is initiates canon or non-canon

and in initiates the female assassin is said to have pretnded to come in contact with eve so do you think that the theory of 'she remains to be found' (eve's descendant can kill juno) is true or that the assassin is just lying....hat are your opinions....pls hepl me with this...i am dying to know......

122.161.73.179 17:07, October 31, 2014 (UTC)jayambalani...the one who asked u bout the references....

All of your questions can easily be answered by reading the relevant articles here on the wiki. Also, if this was a load of questions for Sima, you should've used his talkpage. --Kainzorus Prime ⚜ ^{Walkie-talkie} 17:11, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

what articles?????/

i just want a few answers..thats all.....could you give me a link for sima's talk page????122.161.73.179 17:45, October 31, 2014 (UTC)jayam

Fort William Henry

Just wanted to note that Kesegowaase and Monro died on 3 November 1757 during an attack on Albany. The massacre after the Siege of Fort William Henry occured on 10 August.--Bovkaffe (talk) 17:46, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Chronological order of AC.

Tell me if I missed anything

• Assassin's Creed I: Desmond (Aquilus parts)
• Assassin's Creed II: Aquilus (Aquilus parts)
• Assassin's Creed III: Accipter (Accipter parts)
• Assassin's Creed ( Penny Arcade Web Comic) (NON-CANON)
• Assassin's Creed Altair's Chronicles
• Assassin's Creed (comic) (Altair parts)
• Assassin's Creed Revelations (Altair Memory 1)
• Assassin's Creed
• Assassin's Creed The Secret Crusade
• Assassin's Creed Revelations (Altair Memory 2)
• Assassin's Creed Bloodlines
• Assassin's Creed 2 (Altair Memory)
• Assassin's Creed Revelations (Altair Memory 3 and 4)
• Assassin's Creed Unity (First Mission)
• Assassin's Creed IV: Hawk (Numa Al'Kashim parts)
• Assassin's Creed V: El Cakr (El Cakr parts)
• Assassin's Creed VI: Leila (El Cakr parts)
• Assassin's Creed Lineage
• Assassin's Creed 2
  • Assassin's Creed 2 Sequence 12: Battle of Flori
• Assassin's Creed 2: Discovery
• Assassin's Creed 2
  • Assassin's Creed 2 Sequence 13: The Bonfire of Vanties
• Assassin's Creed 2 Multiplayer
• Assassin's Creed Multiplayer Rearmed
• Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
  • Assassin's Creed Brotherhood: Copernicus Conspiracy
  • Assassin's Creed Brotherhood: The Da Vinci Dissapearance
• Assassin's Creed Ascension
• Assassin's Creed Reccolection
• Assassin's Creed Identity
• Assassin's Creed Revelations - Path to Revelations
• Assassin's Creed Revelations
• Assassin's Creed Project Legacy
• Assassin's Creed Embers
• Assassin's Creed Chronicles China
• Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
• Assassin's Creed Freedom Cry
• Assassin's Creed Pirates
• Assassin's Creed Forsaken
• Assassin's Creed Rogue
• Assassin's Creed III
• Assassin's Creed Liberation
• Assassin's Creed III Tyrany of King Washington (All 3 parts)
• Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag (Aveline DLC)
• Assassin's Creed Memories
• Assassin's Creed Unity
• Assassin's Creed Unity: Dead Kings
• Assassin's Creed Braham
• Assassin's Creed Chronicals India
• Assassin's Creed Underworld
• Assassin's Creed Syndacite
• Assassin's Creed The Fall
• Assassin's Creed Chronicles Russia
• Assassin's Creed The Chain
• Assassin's Creed Subject Four
• Assassin's Creed The Fall (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed The Chain (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed (comic) (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed 2 (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (Modern Day)
• Assassins Creed Revelations (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed III (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (Modern Day)
• Assassin's Creed Unity (Modern Day)

I think this is EVERY AC CONTENT EVER!!!! If not please let me know :) I also propose to have this added to the page if you dont want it there I'll be alright SpiderMatty (talk) 05:47, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

I suggest these to be added. I was searching online for a chronological order of events in the series, but it's surprisingly hard to find! I thought people would do some, given the series' themes, but nope, they are always either simply by release order, or too detailed that they are hard to follow. Most casual readers (and I'm one, since this is my first edit) coming here would want the games clearly put in order, more so than each character's birthdates and such! Like if you go on GTA wiki, you get a straight forward chronological list for the games (here's an example) The most wanted informations are seeing where the events from the games take place, not when their backstories take place. It would be mandatory to at least have like events from Assassin's Ceed II take place at the correct spot, but I suggest to also have a separate simpler timeline that may be in a section at the bottom or at the top of this page called like "timeline summary" listing exclusively each release with the year it takes place, since I believe that's the most valuable information.--Kombatgod (talk) 10:25, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Time to travel to Lisbon

Why does it take Shay a whole year to get to Lisbon from near Boston

when it took only 72 days for Haytham to get to Boston from London

Unless there's some months for Shay to go to Albany and back to Achilles...

kinda stretching there, but then again its said on the cinematics, I wonder if something happened in between.

Attack on Braddock

1754 Nov 15 sounds reasonable based on the 5 months later reference in the cinematic.

but where did 1755 July 9 came from?

Based on the cinematics and conversasions, its hard to imagine it took them another 7 months before attacking Braddock, especially after she said "It is time"

Any thoughts?

Vold180 (talk) 09:29, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

More Modern Day

Hi, Master

I would like to make some suggestion about what you can add to the Timeline: "The Initiates accepted Shaun's invitation and started working with the Assassins", "The virus that Shay's bank of memory triggered and the video with the footage that Berg sent to the Assassin Network, starting another Modern "Great Purge", "Gavin ordering every Assassin to hide", "The Initiates looking for Sages in Arno Dorian's memories" and all the John Fraser Stuff. And thanks for making this Timeline, its like the best article in the Wiki, and you did it by yourself, great job! Oh, and i forgot about: "Sigma team is reformed"

DipsonDP (talk) 03:23, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

I was waiting to see if we got any specific dates for those, and in the process I forgot all about them. I actually forgot about a lot of things. I don't think there's much work left, so I'll try clear some time tonight to finish it up. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 08:06, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sylvester II

The part about Sylvester should be changed, since he was never burned at the stake.--Bovkaffe (talk) 17:37, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Update

I really don'tmean to be pushy but could you please update the timeline with unity and syndicate's modern dayevents.......how the player was contacted and how he started reliving memories and stuff like that?

Il Capitan (talk) 17:06, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

EH

EH stuff is missing :P DipsonDP (talk) 07:23, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

Updated with new information

Missing Facts

You didn't put in the assassination of Starrick and the other Templar members from Assassin's Creed: Syndicate that Evie and Jacob Frye did.

Saramareefrye (talk) 10:26, January 3, 2016 (UTC)saramareefrye

It's also missing other events from Syndicate and the currently running comic. In two weeks' time I hope to be temporarily relieved of uni stress. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 13:01, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

Event missing

hey sima....i understand that you keep updating the timeline but this event is missing : elise meets jeniffer scott for the letters in april 1789 this entry is missing.....i know that you might've been busy but can you please update it.....and other entries like syndicate's modern day when bishop calls for the initiate..

Il Capitan (talk) 16:58, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Issue 1

Hi,

Trail by Fire's events happened (At least the beginning) in September. DipsonDP (talk) 21:06, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

We already discussed it, and it is only date of last login (most likely on ms. Morehead account and it makes sense, why would you be visiting bank personaly more than once a few months?), and to make sense chronologicly and with Syndicate MD it has to happen in december 2015. See there: http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:205308 Kulurak (talk) 05:06, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Very minor edit

I, being wont to make extremely minor edits and corrections, would link the "72" where it says "Haytham Kenway boarded the Providence to start his 72-day long journey...", or the "72" heading, to the "72" page. Evandrus Primæ (talk) 19:41, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

Since Uprising #1 and #2, and Reflections #1 are out, the timeline needs to be updated. 190.101.17.129 04:16, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Corrected spelling/grammar

In 1247 when a merchant was saved by Altaïr, the sentence written in the timeline reads: "The merchant Mukhlis from the brigands Bayhas and his henchmen outside Masyaf by Altaïr". So we have to add "was saved" in this sentence right after "Mukhlis".

Okanio Auditore (talk) 17:45, June 26, 2017 (UTC)Okanio Auditore

Battle of the Nile - February 47 BCE

I just added this page Battle of the Nile. Can it be added to the timeline please?

Boofhead185 (talk) 03:19, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Date of Auditore exodus to Monteriggioni

I was under the impression, from the way day and night change as the main story memories progress, that Ezio, Maria, and Claudia leave Florence on the night of New Year's Eve, 1476, and the in-game database says this memory takes place in 1476. This timeline says it takes place in 1477, though. What gives?

Uhaveachoice81 (talk) 15:51, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

Excuse me, the DNA menu, not the database.

Uhaveachoice81 (talk) 15:54, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

They arrived on New Year's Day, which is in 1477. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 16:06, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

That doesn't answer my question. In fact, the sky was still dark when they arrived, so I'm inclined to think they left New Year's Eve, traveled throughout the night, and arrived in the early morning hours. Uhaveachoice81 (talk) 19:03, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

2017

Can anyone add info about Layla Hassan in Egypt? Galvatron III (talk) 19:06, March 7, 2018 (UTC)

Peloponnesian War - 431 BCE

Can we add the Peloponnesian War in the timeline from Odyssey? CB2014 19:16, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Barnabas link needs correcting...

...to Barnabas (Cypriot) (Year 1192) --Bluerock (talk) 01:01, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

AC Bloodstone events

1957

• 8 February: Alekseï Gavrani is in attendance for his first mission at the CIA under Boris Pash.

1963

• 2 January: Assassins Alekseï Gavrani, Julia Gorm, and Zenia assist in the war effort but are surrounded by U.S. soldiers that Julia quickly dispatches with a knife.

2000

• 6 December: Templar forces overrun the Assassin training camp on Kyushu during the Great Purge killing many assassins, camp overseer Yuri, mother of Tomo Sakagawa being one of them. Tomo is taken to safety by fellow Assassin Hajime Shimada.

2017

• 28 July: Tomo Sakagawa learns of the whereabouts of Maxime Gorm, the leader of the Kyushu raid. He hatches a plan to go undercover at a Swiss medical clinic and lay in wait.
• 4 October: Tomo travels to the clinic, under the guise of a "Dr. Florent Carpentier". He meets Dr. Nathalie Chapman, and is introduced him to the patient Elisa Bouvyer.
• 30 October: Elisa reveals to Tomo that her real surname is 'Adler'. Shortly afterward he is confronted by Dr. Chapman who tells him of her allegiance to the brotherhood. After discussing Maxime and the Assassins Boris Pash and Alekseï Gavrani, Tomo enters an Animus reliving his memories in order to find details on the secret Templar project.
• 2 November: Assassin Hajime Shimada arrives in Switzerland to rendezvous with Tomo. They realize that Pash held an Apple of Eden, meanwhile Tomo starts suffering from the Bleeding Effect. He then resumes his Animus session, this time reliving the Kennedy assassination.
• 11 November: Tomo and Elisa spend time together. Elisa tells him she is using the Animus for her treatment under Dr. Chapman, Tomo however, cautions her not to continue as he believes Dr. Chapman is using the Animus to to implant genetic memories on her test subjects. Instead telling her to visit her parents as it may jog her memory.
• 12 November: Visiting the Adler family home in Madrid, Tomo and Elisa are shocked to discover Maxime rising from the cellar. The parents reveal that they were experimenting on Maxime via an Animus. After Maxime and Tomo lock eyes however a struggle ensues, resulting in the death of Elisa's parents and the loss of Tomo's eye. Back on Lake Léman, Dr. Chapman returns home and is informed via a phone call that the Adlers and Tomo are dead. An assassination attempt is made on her life by an Assassin of Hajime's cell. They are quickly killed by Dr. Chapman's security officer.
• 15 November: Tomo awakens in an Assassin bunker and is greeted by Hajime informing him that Chapman must be stopped.

Source - Assassin's Creed: Bloodstone #1B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 12:40, August 25, 2019 (UTC)

Isu Era

The Isu Hades abducted the Isu Persephone and forced her to become his wife, with the consent of his brother Poseidon. He imprisoned Persephone in Elysium, which he allowed her to rule alongside her friend Hekate.

I believe this is meant to say Zeus not Poseidon?

The Essential Guide 2.0 timeline places the "Human Upriser"'s assassination of Saturn ahead of Eve's theft of the Apple (both noted as c. 75,010 BCE). Book also says that Juno found Consus during the Capitoline Triad's research so that'll be a fun rewrite of Consus' page. Vetinari^{(Appointment)} 20:58, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Possible Date for ACS's Timeline?

Recently got into ACS, and when I was browsing around on Tumblr, I saw a post regarding the time span for the main plot of ACS. We know that the plot kicks off on February 10, 1868, and according to a player on Tumblr, somewhere in the game (possibly), there is a timestamp that indicates that Queen Victoria's ball occurred on June 26 ("I’m also unsure of where you find it, possibly in the games files, that the date of the Queen’s Ball is June 26th, 1868", is what they say). I honestly haven't had any luck finding sources regarding the time span of the game, so I wanted to ask if anyone can verify this information? I know it's a long-shot asking this since ACS doesn't have specific timestamps like its predecessors, but I figured asking couldn't hurt, in case there's like newspaper clippings or in-game data that might say otherwise.--NinjaSheik 22:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I cannot verify neither the date of the ball nor the April 17 date mentioned in the post, neither appear in the game's text files. I can, however, find June 26, 1867. It's the date for one of the letters you collect. - Soranin (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I figured that was the case, too, when I went about poking around the collectibles. I guess that means the only verified date for the main plot is the start on Feb. 10. Thank you for the response, Soranin!--NinjaSheik 23:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

We can estimate that the plot occured between February and November 1868 as Disraeli was the Prime Minister during this period. I don't know when the election occured during this time, but it could be a indication. The Corrupt Practices Act of 1868 received Royal assent the 31 July, so we can assume that the passage of the law and the in-game Lord Cardigan's death occured some days before. We have another clue, in A Case of Identity, Abberline said that the Bank of England was robbed every fiscal quarter, so the memory A Bad Penny could only occured between March and April or June and July. For me the Queen's Ball happened during the summer as they danced in the gardens.Francesco75 (talk) 09:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I did some research when it came to the real-life counterparts of mentioned events and deaths for certain historical figures, too. I was pretty wary using them as references because it doesn't always align with how the game depicts things. For example, the real Lord Cardigan died on March 28, 1868, but given how how the Sequences are organized chronically in ACS, that doesn't make sense, as it meant that Jacob would've killed him a month after arriving London, so using a death date wouldn't work. For me, the most solid indicator would've been the historical date of the Corrupt Practices Act of 1868, since, according to Wikipedia, it was reintroduced in February 1868, which was the same month the Frye twins arrived in London, and because it played a plot point in the game in Sequence 7 since Lord Cardigan tried to have Mr. Disraeli assassinated to prevent it from passing. So, if the Corrupt Practices Act reached royal assent on July 31, 1868, that meant that the day they killed Starrick did happened sometime in June, or very early in July. Which meant that it took the Frye twins about five/six months to liberate London from Starrick. With what little information is given to us in the game and whatnot, that's the most solid estimation we got for the main plot.--NinjaSheik 20:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

End of Mirage in February 865?

I know that Mirage doesn't give an explicit date after the training in Alamut but we can delimit the ending base on some information:

-In the database, Alamut is completed in 865. During the last mission, we saw that Alamut is still in construction.

-Other info, a historical event, or maybe lack, the Siege of Baghdad. It began in March 865 and lasted a year. The last mission in Baghdad can't be further than March 865 as we don't see the siege

-The presence of Wasif in Baghdad. I know that historically he died in 867. But he had a role in the siege of Baghdad. Historically, the Caliph Al-Musta'in stayed in Samarra until early 865, fearing riots from the Turks. He arrived with Wasif in Baghdad in February 865.

-Al-Mutazz liberation: historically, Al Mutazz was liberated by the Turks after Al-Musta'in went to Baghdad to recognize him as the caliph.

-Qabiha negotiated her son's claim to the throne to prevent the civil war. Once again a proof that it happened before the siege. We can imagine that with her death, Al-Mutazz didn't respect the deal provoking the Abbasid civil war and the siege of the city.

Then, we can assume that the last section of the game occurred during February 865, from the death of Wasif and the confrontation in the Palace.Francesco75 (talk) 12:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)