Talk:Sons of Ivaldi

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Various issues

Some issues. I don't think every dwarven refugee in the shelters is necessarily part of the Sons of Ivaldi. Like I don't believe a requirement for gaining their protection is membership. Also we have other contenders for this name that we need to address first is the sons as they appear in mythology as the smiths of the flying ship Skíðblaðnir for Freyr, the spear Gungnir for Odin, and the golden hair for Sif. Additionally there is Alf who appears to be his biological son in letters one can find in Asgard. Finally there is the fact Odin says he doesn't know anything about any sons even though he knows about the forging of the mentioned artefacts and assumedly read the letter from Alf. Apparently Eivor's memory problems are inherited and not just drug induced. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 06:20, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good point about the refugees. On the smith point I think Valhalla has the artifacts made by Brokrr and Sindri, but I'm not completely sure. - Soranin (talk) 14:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

It is true that the use of the name is weirdly used. The artifcats are said to be made by the sons but also that the sons only formed after Ivaldi's supposed death. The part of Odin not knowing ivaldi had children could also be just him being arrogant and not knowing anything about him. I think both things are incositencies but can be explained as the same people that formed the sons made the artifacts. Also about not every refugee being a member, i agree on that. But i think theres a difference between those who acitvely work in the shelters vs the normal people. The blacksmiths would be sumplying weapons for the resistance as an example. but im fine with removing most of them. -RealBearZ (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2022 (UTC)