Talk:Jacob and Evie Frye's souvenirs

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So when I first made this page I just randomly picked souvenirs to categorize the trinkets but Unity specifically uses "mementos" to describe Arno's analogue. Should this be changed to reflect? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:16, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

If it makes it consistent, then sure, that'd be a good idea. What is the exact difference between memento and souvenir anyways? Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:10, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

So doing a quick search, there is a lot of overlap but a memento seems to be "an object that reminds" while a souvenir is "item that is brought back". Alternatively there is also keepsake but for this I like memento because I usually relate it with events while souvenirs and keepsakes are locations and people respectively for me. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 22:08, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

I agree entirely. "Souvenirs" was also awkward for me because I tend to think of it in the modern context of purchasing it from a landmark's gift shop which goes along with it being an "item that is brought back". Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:24, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

Locations

There should be a section in the table saying where in London the souvenirs can be found. I'm sure telling people where they are placed on the train once found is of some importance, but that's not helpful to people who come here expecting information on where to find them if they want all of the souvenirs to doctorate the train. The Cat Master (talk) 15:51, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

It'd rather be a 'how' than 'where', as there are gained via completing stuff in the game. Sadelyrate (siniath) 16:06, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

As Sal said it’s not really a where but more of a how or a when even. But I feel most are self explanatory given the descriptions. I’m also worried about keeping it IU, the description column already stretches that I think. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 17:13, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

Souvenirs from Artie & Singh

I was going through the datamine files, and I found that there are descriptions for souvenirs given to the Frye twins from Artie (Description: "A gift from Artie. Clever lad!") and Duleep Singh (Description: "Presented to us by Duleep Singh, the Black Prince of Perthshire."). There's no other description that tells us what these souvenirs are meant to be. I don't believe these souvenirs made into the game, so I went to check with the article to see if they were listed, which they are not. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if there are images found deeper in the game files, but I figured it'd be something to bring up in case it's something to be added a trivia, even if we don't know what the souvenirs are.--NinjaSheik 05:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the Artie one became the magnifying glass with a different description. Didn't know about the one from Duleep. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 05:51, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't see a magnifying glass listed in the article anywhere. I don't think it made into the game under a different description. Unless someone can datamine the game files to see if there's images, I don't think it'll be possible to know for sure.--NinjaSheik 19:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Overdue, but I finally had time to go back into the game and double-check the souvenirs: I can confirm that Artie's magnifying glass is in the game (see this video), and like you said, Lacrossdeamon, it somehow ended under a completely name and description on the wiki's article, hence the confusion. I don't really know how that happened, but I did fix it. Does anyone know what "Secret" was meant to be?--NinjaSheik 01:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I wonder if "Secret" was a placeholder if you checked the spots before completing that section of the game? Datamining can be difficult though because so much that gets changed or cut can still be left in those files. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems that what "Secret" was. I never checked the empty spots prior to completing the missions since I was using the wiki as my guide when I got into the game (being a noob and all).--NinjaSheik 04:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)