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:I'd be for keeping it, though put a Conjecture tag on it.[[User:VilkaIsBack|VilkaIsBack]] ([[User talk:VilkaIsBack|talk]]) 07:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:I'd be for keeping it, though put a Conjecture tag on it.[[User:VilkaIsBack|VilkaIsBack]] ([[User talk:VilkaIsBack|talk]]) 07:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::It's not really conjecture. It's just descriptive rather than a formal name like the Sons of Liberty. The game normally just calls the Rebels but occasionally uses Zanj rebels. I could see an argument for moving this to just Zanj similar to how we have a page for Maroons. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 08:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::It's not really conjecture. It's just descriptive rather than a formal name like the Sons of Liberty. The game normally just calls the Rebels but occasionally uses Zanj rebels. I could see an argument for moving this to just Zanj similar to how we have a page for Maroons. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 08:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::My issue with this page, is that unlike for the Sons of Liberty, we don't even have any auxiliary material (like database entries) to flesh this one out. I believe there is nothing that could be in this page (taking the series as a source) that would not be in the page for the rebellion proper.
:::Moving this to "Zanj" instead would also be problematic, given that even wikipedia says that the term as used for the rebellion was not referring to the actual Zanj people, intead being used as a synonym for Africans in general: "''however the term Zanj here is thought to refer to Africans in general due to the lack of a prolific slave trade on the Swahili coast during this period and genetic studies.''" ({{Wiki|Zanj#Zanj_Rebellion|source}}) - [[User:Soranin|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin|talk]]) 13:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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Delete?

I get this page was created by a sockpuppet but honestly I say keep. We have plenty examples where we have articles for both the rebellion/revolution and the rebels/revolutionaries. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:12, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I'd be for keeping it, though put a Conjecture tag on it.VilkaIsBack (talk) 07:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
It's not really conjecture. It's just descriptive rather than a formal name like the Sons of Liberty. The game normally just calls the Rebels but occasionally uses Zanj rebels. I could see an argument for moving this to just Zanj similar to how we have a page for Maroons. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
My issue with this page, is that unlike for the Sons of Liberty, we don't even have any auxiliary material (like database entries) to flesh this one out. I believe there is nothing that could be in this page (taking the series as a source) that would not be in the page for the rebellion proper.
Moving this to "Zanj" instead would also be problematic, given that even wikipedia says that the term as used for the rebellion was not referring to the actual Zanj people, intead being used as a synonym for Africans in general: "however the term Zanj here is thought to refer to Africans in general due to the lack of a prolific slave trade on the Swahili coast during this period and genetic studies." (source) - Soranin (talk) 13:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)