Talk:16th century Sage

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Kavanagh

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Wasn't this just Kavanagh. We already have a page for him. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:24, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm wondering this myself and whether the dates given here are just wrong. However, it's quite clear that this is meant to be individual who founded the Guardians of the Observatory. I don't believe that those bottles described Kavanagh doing so, right? Either way, this article needs a different name. "16th century Sage" is way too imprecise as a conjectural name. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 08:27, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

It's not Kavanagh. Kavanagh wasn't born until over a century later. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:56, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

I found the reference of this Sage in the 19th letter of Kavanagh, he said that a Sage 150 years before him asked the Taino to protect the observatory. So 1673-150=1520Francesco75 (talk) 09:18, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

I forgot about him. Maybe rename this to Caribbean Sage. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:31, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Second thought is there any evidence this isn't the same as the Maya Sage?Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:33, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Maybe but it could be also a spanish conquistador, we don't have much information. Also the maya Sage could be alive 2000 years BC, so it's difficult to know if he is the same Sage.Francesco75 (talk) 09:47, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

"Caribbean Sage" won't be a valid option since Thomas Kavanagh himself was a Sage in the Caribbean as was Bartholomew Roberts. A conjectural name has to be refer t a specific trait of the individual that distinguishes them from others in their group. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 10:31, November 20, 2018 (UTC)