User talk:Kennyannydenny

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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. Master Sima Yi (talk) 20:59, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Egyptian mythology

Hey man,

If you know a lot about Egyptian mythology, then you're perfect for writing the article. One important thing though: make sure that all information you put on there can be traced back to Origins (or Discovery Tour if need be). I'm sure by now you know we have a very strict sourcing policy in place, so if it is not featured in the game, we cannot rightfully assume it also exists in the AC universe. (Of course, it is most likely the same, but it can always end up being slightly different, so best not to spread misinformation.) -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 09:42, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Issue with your Egyptian mythology page

You might wanna check some of your info. The stuff about Wadjet, Hermes, and Thoth is wrong. The Cult of Wadjet operated out of Karanis and surrounding area not Hermapolis and the defaced statue and murdered priest were in the Serapeon of Karanis not the Temple of Thoth. Also Baba is not the god represent by the baboon topped canopic jar. That would be Hapi who is also depicted as a baboon but is one of the Four Sons of Horus. Finally I don’t know if you wanna add that Serapis has attributes taken from Hades and Dionysus as well as Osiris and Apis which is where the name comes from. I’m not sure the Greek gods are ever explicitly mentioned in the game or the Discovery Tour but his statues are depicted with a bident and three headed dog, symbols of Hades. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:46, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lacrossedeamon, thanks for the tips! Feel free to edit the article as you see fit. I indeed mixed up Baba and Hapi, it's a big 'mess' the Egyptian mythology and it's hard to keep track of everything in my head, sometimes things get mixed up :) I couldn't remember the name of the town of the cult of Wadjet, did a quick search but apparently that source was wrong. Not sure if Hades is actually mentioned, I saw Bacchus (the Roman equivalent of Dionysus) being mentioned by name during a quest in Cyrene, Osiris and Apis are of course mentioned several times. Can't remember Hades or Dionysos being mentioned though, but I think it's worth a mention. Kennyannydenny (talk) 14:29, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Page renaming

Hello Kenny, I just wanted to say thank you for notifying me about the pages Machete and Cannon needing to be renamed properly. I despise those plural titles so much, and it is always good to be alerted when there are rogue pages still lying around. Cheers! Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:04, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hey sorry for the late reply. As per Wikipedia guidelines, there are actually certain types of pages which should be in the plural because it is more convenient to discuss them in a group. A common example are those concerning political subdivisions such as Provinces of Canada. Wikipedia also has a policy of treating pages on groups of people, such as Arabs or Egyptians in the plural. In the past, people here didn't quite understand when certain pages, such as Sword don't necessarily have to be discussed as a group. Cases like administrative subdivisions or people groups are hard exceptions and should not be the norm.

The reason why I'm explaining this is because the pages you see leftover in the plural are those which I was lenient about and wasn't sure if these exceptions apply in the Assassin's Creed context, especially since formerly, fans knew professions like mercenaries and courtesans always in the collective sense. I also have a hard time determining if Rifts and Borgia Towers should be treated similarly as Provinces of Canada in the sense that we'd almost always discuss them as parts of a whole concept. This is why it took me a while to respond because I have been pondering over the matter.

I think I will at the very least go ahead and change the articles on professions because there are plenty of mercenaries, thieves, doctors, etc. who aren't part of the "factions" employed by the Assassins. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 14:44, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

No, it is fine that if you didn't give too much of a thought about it before because you weren't expected to. I appreciate that you care about consistency since to be quite honest with you, it seems many of the old administrators gave even less thought about. To clarify, it is unprecedented for articles to be in the plural; grammatically, the base form of a word should always be used unless strong reason otherwise, and this form is the singular noun. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 15:06, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Here is Wikipedia's guideline on this matter. Reading this, can you determine if Rifts and Borgia Towers fall under the exceptions listed, such as articles about groups or classes of specific things? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around whether this applies or not with these two. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 15:47, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Athenian Leader et al

Heya, Kennyannydenny ;)

The reasoning behind redirecting and grouping those quests for The Athenian Leader is simply because the dialogue there is exceptionally light; in fact, all the dialogue is present on The Athenian Leader page, so you can see what I'm talking about. If I recall correctly, one of them didn't even have dialogue. I had reached out to Sol Pacificus who supported this.

On the other hand, the quests relating to Welcome to Athens all have substantial dialogue, which would make Welcome to Athens a very lengthy page if it were all combined. Raylan13<staff/> (talk) 18:13, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Ah that explains a lot. I do think we should handle one of the two methods for all pages, not do one page in the first form and the other pages in the second. What do you (and the others) think? Kennyannydenny (talk) 18:41, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

If Sol thinks they should be consistent, I'm fine with that. Despite the lack of information for the support quests for The Athenian Leader, I'd prefer to go with having an individual page for each of them if there's a choice to be had. Better to have a handful with a small amount of info rather than have multiple enormous pages. Raylan13<staff/> (talk) 20:21, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Totally agree. I'll wait a day or two to see what the others think. Kennyannydenny (talk) 20:31, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, we do have a number of very small memory pages (say, Assassination contracts in AC2), so going that way (more lighter memory articles rather than heavier but less) gets my vote. Sadelyrate (siniath) 20:36, October 16, 2018 (UTC)