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Icons

Okay, so, I've updated the page a bit, got all the games in there, made the icons more consistent, etc. But I've run into a bit of a conundrum. I am wondering if the Project Legacy, Recollection and Liberation icons should be updated. The main reason I didn't just replace them without asking is that unlike other edits I've made to this page, these aren't straight upgrades or fixes, but instead options. Here are the images in a Imgur album. And now a tiny rundown:

For Project Legacy and Recollection I saw that every other game in the page features artwork and a title, while these two only feature titles, kinda sticking out. So I was thinking maybe add something else to them. For Recollection the Icon is based on the title screen of the game, with the cards forming a sort of DNA strand. For Project Legacy I made two, one based on Key art and the other based on a wallpaper obtained through Uplay.

For Liberation my thought was "Liberation HD is kinda the definitive version of the game, so it'd fit to have an icon based on that." Of course the problem with that would still say ACIII: Liberation instead of AC: Liberation HD under the image, which I'd feel weird changing for consistency's sake (Seeing as it is almost always referred under its original title in the wiki).

Anyways, I know this is kinda out of nowhere considering this page isn't really updated (or frequented or anything) but, yeah.

Thoughts? -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 23:30, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

We generally refer to Liberation the way it is because aside from High Definition, there's little new in the HD version other than some added missions. The main story is (practically) the same and established Aveline's story. If there was some way you could remove the "HD" then by all means, it's be great.

In terms of the others, I like the second Project Legacy choice because it's clear and easy to read. The first one is rather dark against the current background, and also the black text is merging in, which is not that great. Other than that, the second PL and the Recollection icons are lovely. :D Slate Vesper (talk) 04:04, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Added a version of the Liberation Icon without the HD part of the title to the album. Solo link here. Let me know what you think! -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 06:49, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Amazing! <3 :D Slate Vesper (talk) 07:04, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Freedom Cry

I have a couple of questions: Should Freedom Cry be added? If so, under what should it be added? While Freedom Cry is a DLC campaign for Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, it is also a standalone game that can be downloaded independently. It's basically a download-only Assassin's Creed game. It can be played individually without even owning IV, at least on PlayStation and PC. If it were included, where would it be included? Under Main or Surrounding instalments? Under its own category? "Standalone DLC", maybe? Opinions? --Zero-ELEC (talk) 23:02, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Les Deux Royaumes Series

I think there should be some changes to this page regarding the semi canonical 'French' comics. First of all, why is Assassin's Creed: Conspiracies listed as canon, while the others are semi-canon? Is it confirmed the upcoming comics will be canon, in contrast to the previous Les Deux Royaumes comics? It's also listed separately, which makes it seem as if they're not part of Les Deux Royaumes series, while it's confirmed to end the series.

I suggest we split them up in 3 parts instead; The Ankh of Isis Trilogy (1-3), the Scepter of Aset Trilogy (4-6) and the upcoming Conspirations comics, all under Semi-canonical. Let me know what you think! (Flash (talk) 14:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC))

Unless its confirmed Assassin's Creed: Conspirations has non-canon parts, chances are it will be canon. The only reason the Les Deux Royaumes series was non canon was because early one they hadn't established canonicity standards. Almost everything since (excluding the manga) has been 100% canon. There's no reason to believe that Conspirations will only be partially canon. Also, where has it been confirmed to be the end to the Les Deux Royaumes series? Since it has a different creative team, I assumed it was its own thing.

As for the separation of the comics, that's actually not a bad idea. Though, I wonder if it's fine? Aren't those treated as #1, #2, etc? Would that be like adding the issues of the other comics individually? — Zero-ELEC (talk) 16:01, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

I thought it was a follow-up on the previous comics (and so says the wikia page), however I (tried to) reread the French Ubiblog post from back in October and it does mentions things like 'second project' and 'new tour', so you may be right on it being canon. Though I do believe they will continue or borrow elements from their existing modern day storyline in AC: Conspirations.

They are treated as #1-#6, but even in the comics is spoken of two 'cycles'. I don't know how the other comics are sorted but since Assassin's Creed: Conspirations is sorted separately (while also part of Les Deux Royaumes series), why not do the same for The Ankh of Isis Trilogy and The Scepter of Aset Trilogy? I believe the English versions of the comics are only available for purchase in the form of these two bundles.(Flash (talk) 18:18, July 12, 2016 (UTC))

Just because they're published by the same publisher, doesn't mean that they're the same series. In fact it's definitely a separate series. The original was "Assassin's Creed", hence the series got separated into numbered "Volumes" like 1: Desmond, 2: Aquilius, etc. "Assassin's Creed: Conspirations" starts the numbering over, consists of two "Tomes" numbered 1 and 2. Unless it turns out/it's confirmed to be a sequel, I'd take it as simply a separate comic series done by a different creative team, using the same IP, published by the same company.

As for how the other comic series handle things; Les Deux Royaumes' Assassin's Creed consists of six sizeable numbered "Volumes" while the Titan Comics' Assassin's Creed so far consists of small-ish "Issues" with every five issues collected into a "Volume", Templars (also by Titan Comics) consists of much the same. The Ubiworks published The Fall consisted on three issues that were later collected as one, while The Fall and Brahman were single issue graphic novels. As it stands, I don't feel justified in separating the Les Deux Royaumes volumes into separate buttons? Maybe someone else could chime in with their opinion? — Zero-ELEC (talk) 03:15, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I'm fine with treating the trilogies and Conspirations as unique entities in the navigation. 4-6 are definitely a different ancient arc from 1-3, and Conspirations sits off on its own. I would rather break things up by logical story arc than by publisher. DarkFeather ^{Raven's Nest}_{Raven's Hunt} 13:26, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I think I should restate my previous comments a little bit. Firstly I do agree with you about AC: Conspirations most likely being completely different installments. What bothers me is that the first 6 volumes are called after their publisher (Les Deux Royaumes), while it's not the case for Conspirations. I know this is done to prevent confusement, since otherwise they would simply be just called Assassin's Creed. I believe the 'main' Titan Comics serie is also called just Assassin's Creed and since those are more commonly known and regarded as completely canon, I think they deserve that title more. My suggestion would be to split up this page (Assassin's Creed (Les Deux Royaumes comics)) into The Ankh of Isis Trilogy and The Hawk Trilogy and to treat those two as the primary pages for the comics (while also maintaining and directing to the seperate volumes pages). (Flash (talk) 15:38, July 13, 2016 (UTC))

I understand that it's easy to divide into two storylines, however I'd still hesitate because it'd be just that: dividing a series into storylines. It'd still be the same series. I think it'd be like dividing the Titan Comics ones into storylines, which I'd also hesitate to do. And it could be done. The French comics could be divided into The Ankh of Isis Trilogy and The Hawk Trilogy and the Titan ones could be divided into Trial by Fire and Setting Sun and so on. It just feels unnecessary. But if y'all think it's best, I made buttons for those trilogies. I just think separating them is superfluous. — Zero-ELEC (talk) 17:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I see your point, when we treat the French comics this way, we should treat them all that way. I agree separating all comics into the collection volumes might get a bit to crowded. Maybe it's okay to leave it like it's now? Perhaps a name change is the best thing to do, as you already proposed. (Flash (talk) 10:50, July 14, 2016 (UTC))

Novel tie-ins vs Novelizations

As mentioned by another editor some of the 'novelizations' like Desert Oath aren’t really novelization. I motion to change the name to 'novel tie-ins' or something similar. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 17:41, June 29, 2018 (UTC)