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Name

I propose a rename back to his proper place as "Arno Dorian". We do not use middle names in most articles; there are rare exceptions. A playable character is not one of them. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 17:21, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. nucl3arsnake (talk) 17:30, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Aye aye. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 17:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

It's done. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 18:11, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Adoption

Are we sure that de la Serre adopted Dorian, because I don't remember reading more than "he raised him after his father's death" from ubisoft officials, in addition Arno would be named de la Serre and not Dorian if he was adopted by élise's father. Maybe de la Serre was only a fatherly figure to Arno, like an uncle, a tutor or a godfatherMaxattac (talk) 01:59, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure Arno would be able to keep his surname. If I were adopted, I would refuse to abandon my original surname, regardless of whether or not it's legally changed. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 02:42, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

Arno's Lineage

This is a question that has yet to be answered: Who is Arno's decendant in ACU? Is he yet another ancestor of Desmond? An ancestor of a former Subject? Or the ancestor of someone entirely new? SkyGuy-Let's chat! 17:09, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

It's been confirmed that it's certainly not Desmond.Bovkaffe (talk) 17:10, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

When and by who? Because Black Flag said that Desmond had a French ancestor during this time period, highly suggesting that Arno is an ancestor of Desmond. Mr.Mandude (talk) 23:21, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

June 13th, by Vincent Pointbriant. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 23:47, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

Arno's Pocketwatch

Did anyone else notice that Arno's pocketwatch has the assassin logo as one of the hands?

72.9.11.186 16:52, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Assassin's Clothes

Did they state why Arno Dorian's Assassin's Clothes didn't had the signature color white and bird beak hood? --Cococrash11 (talk) 04:08, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Arno's default hood does have a small beak I think (and there are others hoods available to him, some of which have more prominent beaks). As for the colour, I believe it was simply because white stood out too much among the 18th century fashion of the time, so they went with dark blue. I remember that being said somewhere. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 07:51, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Arno's clothes are cool  and blue dose go with him and his hood dose have a small beak, what i can think of that Shay did not have one by a fact. Who thinks that his clothes in Dead King are uncool? (CH15!!!!) (talk) 20:34, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Well there are quite a few Assassins out there without beaked hoods, mostly in Black Flag. So Shay isn't really that unusual in this respect. And yes, Arno's clothes in Dead Kings are just too drab imo. They also make him look thin for some reason (and the cape physics kind of suck). Crook ^{The Constantine District} 20:46, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Arno and the Brotherhood

The game is unclear and i didn't read the ACU Novel...

In the "Arno Dorian" wiki page, it's explain that he was an Assassin from 1789 to 1793 and from 1794 to "unknow"...

But after to read the wiki page, it's said " Arno also tried to keep out of the sight of Assassins hoping to keep out of the war between them and the Assassins, the Truce that Élise's has so hoped for had failed and he no longer wanted to be part of the war."

So, i would like to know if Arno is still an Assassin a the end of game and/novel.

thanks —unsigned comment by Odelpasso (talk · contr)

That is  becuase it is currently unknown and has been left ambigious. —unsigned comment by 90.201.177.87 (talk · contr)Badwolf7 (talk) 10:14, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Some of the co-op missions, namely "The Machine Infernal", take place after the main game and show that Arno is still an Assassin. The fact that he was bestowed his Master Assassin armor is also a large indication of his continuing loyalties to the Assassins. I didn't know who put that information you copied up, but I have no idea where it's from. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 09:50, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

That would be me and that comes straight from the Unity Novel. what i wrote is almost word for word what he said.

At some point he may have rejoined but the real answer is we do not know Badwolf7 (talk) 10:14, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

I took a look at it myself. "I've stayed here ever since, out of sigh and, perhaps even where the Assassins are concerned, out of mind." And that is in September 1794. Yes, we do know that he rejoined the Assassins, the game clearly says so. Élise's final letter also asks him that he return to his Brotherhood. The exact date that he does so is unknown, but this only indicates it is after 12 September 1794. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 10:20, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't be taking references from Coop missions. They are narrated by Bishop, she also calls out orders. At one point she says something like "You need to get Danton's letters, I think Robespierre's house is a good bet" so those aren't really memories. I believe she said somewhere that this is made for training of the initiates. BRX (talk) 00:21, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I think Bishop is just being coy, while giving the illusion that you're in charge. Her telling you to go to Robespierre's house is like saying "Go there, you'll find the letters you're after." but she makes it sound like you obeying that suggestion is you taking the initiative. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:00, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Quote Help?

I am sorry if this is not the place to ask this sort of question. But I was going to add part of his monoluge for his quote. BUUUUT I dont want to mess anything up so I just want to ask how does one put in a quote without breaking the whole wiki? once again I apologize if this is not the place to talk about this.

Prohetofhurt99 (talk) 18:45, December 12, 2014 (UTC)Prohetofhurt99

Like this: {{Quote|(write the quote here)|(describe quote)|(source, for instance Assassin's Creed: Unity)}}

An example:

{{Quote|The first council has ended. Our problem is clear, our response undetermined. Caesar moves away from the Senate, placing his trust in foreign rulers, adopting the ego and pomp of his Egyptian whore.|[[Marcus Junius Brutus]] about Cleopatra's influence on Caesar.|Assassin's Creed: Project Legacy}}--Bovkaffe (talk) 18:54, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

OK I just clicked on the button and saw that there is an easier way to edit, do I still do that procedure?

What do you mean?--Bovkaffe (talk) 19:50, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think he means visual mode. Now, I don't want to be that guy who demands that visual editor never be used, but try to minimise the amount of junk code you leave behind, if you can. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 19:53, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah on second thought I dont think I will be the one to add the quote, I dont want to mess anything up. MYabe one day some one else with more expirenec will put a good quote in there.

Prohetofhurt99 (talk) 20:44, December 12, 2014 (UTC)Prohetofhurt99

Don't worry if you make a mistake; someone will fix it, and you'll learn from that mistake. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 20:53, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

Assassin Target Memories

Is there any explanation as to how Arno could see the memories of the targets he assassinated? Some sort of inherited Precursor genetic gift perhaps? It makes a change from the memory corridors in the previous games, but I'm lost.Liendax (talk) 00:01, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

A lot of the things introduced in Unity makes batshit sense to me, so I try not to think too hard about it. Though, to be fair, I haven't actually gotten far enough in Unity to see this "Arno can somehow relive his target's last memories" thing, so maybe it's not my place to judge. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 00:30, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

It's a missed opportunity in my opinion. That could have opened up an interesting new arc, but it was reduced to a flimsy plot device that is never explained. Edward Dorian (talk) 11:29, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Dead Kings in timeline

Does it occur after Elise's death, or during his drunken emo period after the King's execution? --Kainzorus Prime ⚜ ^{Walkie-talkie} 15:44, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

A week after her death.--Bovkaffe (talk) 15:46, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

The date given in-game for The Temple is 28 Jul 1794; the date given for Dead Kings is 4 Aug 1794, exactly one week later. Morgan-wolf (talk) 18:57, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

SPOILER TAG PLEASE

There are spoilers in this article, should someone add a spoiler tag?

Burp-da-derp, Block wuz here. (talk) 00:44, February 8, 2016 (UTC)Block

Of course there are spoilers in this article, you're on a wiki. Spoiler tags remain up on pages for 3-4 months following release, as far as I'm aware. They're only used for recent releases, so Arno's article doesn't have any, since it's been more than a year since Unity came out. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 12:29, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Remaking the Characters video?

Hello, I don't want to criticize the work of others, but I think the video must be slightly change. In the beginning we said he is the protagonist of a game, which broke the 4th wall as the part of the video with Gameplay footage with HUD visible. Maybe we can spoke more of his youth, there is no mention of François de la Serre was his step-father and it's said that he seek vengeance for his biological father's death but it's not true. Also his relation with Elise is skip.Francesco75 (talk) 14:07, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

If you're talking about the video right at the top of the page then I'm afraid we have no control over its contents. These videos are forced onto certain pages of ours by Fandom and we have no say or control over them at all. If we did, we would have had them removed a long time ago. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:17, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, it's a bit absurd when you saw the others video of the characters on the wiki, they all speak as they were real characters and Arno is a protagonist. No reclaim possible?Francesco75 (talk) 15:27, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

As I said, there's nothing we can do about it since we don't have any control over the videos or their content, and Fandom do not currently seem open to the suggestion of removing these videos. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 10:13, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

Arno p.o.v or omniscent p.o.v?

I write some part of the page and i asking if we can reveal information that Arno did known at the time or we reveal its at the same Arno discovered it as the fact that the de la Serre are Templar, Napoléon recovering the key or Germain identity? Francesco75 (talk) 05:54, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

The answer to the question in your title is both or something in between. Yes, we can reveal information that Arno did not know at the time, as long as we make it clear that it is something Arno himself did not know. At the same time, the plot as we recount it should follow Arno's perspective. You describe the sequence of events as Arno is experiencing them, but you don't have to restrict yourself to only things Arno knows. For example, you might say, "as a young boy, Arno lost his father, Charles Dorian to the Templar Shay Cormac owing to Charles' allegiance with the Assassin" or "despite the fact François de la Serre was the Grand Master of the French Templars, Arno was adopted into his family." These are just example sentences, don't use them in the article because it depends on the flow of the writing. In any case, the key subject, the topic remains Arno; the summary that unfolds follows the life of Arno; but we're still writing from a third-person omniscient point-of-view. There can be some flexibility to this too depending on the needs of writing flow, but this is the general guideline. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 07:50, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

Bleeding effect?

This is an ongoing discussion.

As Arno experienced the memories of his targets, can we categorized him as someone with the bleeding effect?Francesco75 (talk) 11:02, June 10, 2020 (UTC)

I'd say not applicable in this case, more a quirk of his EV. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Brotherhood

How do we know for certain that he rejoined the brotherhood? I know we say him going on a mission at the end of Dead Kings, but he coulda easily still been an independent assassin or an ally to the assassins, but not an official member. They never actually showed him rejoining the brotherhood. MedievalVibes (talk)

It is written in Database: Arno Dorian.Francesco75 (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)