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Timeline
Hey there, just saw you making a timeline in your userpage (cause i'm nosy and love looking at Recent Changes) and I was wondering if you knew about Kulurak's timeline of AC media here. Great to see a new editor btw :D - Soranin (talk) 02:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Soranin! Thanks for the advice, didn't knew about this timeline. I'll to update mine as I can! - TiagoFF (talk) 10:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if they meant "you should update yours", I think it may have been more of a "we already have it elsewhere in extensive detail, so why duplicate it someone spared you work?", though I could be misreading tone in the wrong place. And welcome again here! – Darman (talk) 14:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Darman! What I meant was that I needed to update myself and my knowledge, as my previous timeline didn't include all the parts from the games. The timeline Soranin referenced is incredibly detailed with all the events of the games. Just made my own because I couldn't find one anywhere else! - TiagoFF (talk) 17:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if they meant "you should update yours", I think it may have been more of a "we already have it elsewhere in extensive detail, so why duplicate it someone spared you work?", though I could be misreading tone in the wrong place. And welcome again here! – Darman (talk) 14:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Odin
I appreciate your notice in the edit summary about the Greco=Romans, but try not to worry about it too much. As a wiki that anyone can edit, every page here is technically still a work in progress, particularly the oldest pages that need updates to match current style standards, so there's bound to be things we miss or areas where we can't quite nail down the wording. Keep up the good work, though! - Darman (talk) 20:10, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
New hub for editors
Hey Tiago!
I wanted to let you know I made a hub for the editors, so we can see what needs to be done and talk to each other about it.
It's over on Assassin's Creed Wiki:Target board. - Soranin (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Isu Temples
Hi TiagoFF,
Love your gallery of Isu Temples, it's very well organized! I decided to impliment it into the Temple page, so thought I'd tell you so you can clear it from your page. Just a minor note, the Hill of Tara is just a monument, not a Temple, nor is the Sanctuary of Kosmos even though it holds the little Isu pyramid. – Darman (talk) 01:10, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, Darman!
In fact, you're right: the Sanctuary of Kosmos and Hill of Tara aren't Isu Temples, just places that hold artifcats. - TiagoFF (talk) 00:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
RE:Odyssey timeline
Hello Tiago. I've just returned to this project. Apologies for being slow at getting back to you. In order for me to have full clarity of how accurate our timeline is turning out, I will need to construct my own chart of the different timelines suggested by the multiple sources and by different users. I have started progress on it, and it will complement your page because I will use yours as a reference as well. It differs from your page in that while you're trying to fit in every memory in the game, I am comparing the chronologies between sources so we have an established reference page for the inconsistencies since we're bound to forget the fine details after a while. I intend to finish this page as soon as possible, and I will definitely work on it every Thursday, but I also am working on our wiki's article on ACSisterhood at the moment, so I need to finish that by the end of this month, so I will be prioritizing on that.
Once I am done with the chart, I can help out with the final unresolved questions about the timeline. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure about the Cyclops, but I was tempted to treat the Lysander and Demosthenes quests as ahistorical to Kassandra's life. I'm not so sure, but I think Lysander should be too young to be a commander during the events of Odyssey. It's about 20 years before his rise to fame at the end of the war, but then again his Wikipedia page doesn't give his age, and it's not impossible for him to have been very old by that point. In any case, I remember Lacrosse thinks Kassandra should have been in jail during the Battle of Megara of 424 BCE since the novel mentions that the Battle of Delium passed during her imprisonment, and the Battle of Megara historically took place between Pylos and Delium I think. However, the novel fudges up all kinds of dates about events that transpired during her imprisonment. I can't recall (or find) if the game also mentions the Battle of Delium in passing.
If indeed Kassandra participated in the Battle of Megara, then we should be able to safely assume she fought with the Spartans against Demosthenes though. At that point in time, she had joined with the Spartans again. Unless she could have been doing Demosthenes' Spartan-hunting quests before she left Athens in the wake of the plague (before proceeding to help Lysander in turn), I don't think she ever canonically helps Demosthenes. Notwithstanding this, one would think if she really did kill so many polemarchs for Demosthenes, she would have never been given a chance to reclaim her home in Sparta. And historically, there were only ever six Sparta polemarchs at a time because they commanded the largest divisions in the army while Athenian polemarchs were ceremonial military officers since actual military command had been transferred over to the position of strategos. It might be noted that the dialogues seem to go out of their way to not refer to the commanders you're tasked to kill as actually polemarchs, which could just be a gameplay term used incorrectly. Regardless, there's just a lot of problems with this pair of questlines. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 09:18, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Modern day
Hi TiagoFF,
Thanks for adding the missing bits for the first part of Valhalla's modern day as well as starting the next box. I don't know if you're aware, but I've (technically informally, since this is a wiki) claimed the modern day as my project in the "Target board" that Soranin linked above at the start of the month. I'm still writing a draft of it because this month has been busy, but I do appreciate your having reduced my work so far. Just thought I should tell you so that we don't end up with conflicting edits. – Darman (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Darman!
Sorry, didn't see your request to claim the modern day in the section, only saw the page in general. I'm currently researching the dialogues mid-game. If you want you can stay with the final two parts of Valhalla, the one where Layla leaves the cabin and the other when she explores the Yggdrasil and the Basim dialogues in the cabin. Side note: I've noticed that the Brotherhood dialogues are missing its introductions, just for you to know. - TiagoFF (talk) 11:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)- No worries! I know we're all busy with our own projects and so may not have seen the board update. Yeah, I think those last parts are all that is left for Valhalla, with the exception of any ambient lines not tied to cutscenes, like when Layla reads the fridge note, so good on you for gettig the first part. And thanks for the heads up on Brotherhood. I found some extra AC1 stuff and a few missed ACOD lines, but I didn't know Brotherhood was also missing parts, so I'll look into it. – Darman (talk) 13:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Just letting you know ACV's modern day is done! It's now crossed off on the Target board, with your name attached too, since your work really helped cut down what I needed to do. Still looking into the Brotherhood stuff. – Darman (talk) 00:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)