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I'm curious as to where you found Desmond's genealogy image.Sep780 18:14, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
I saw it on Desmond's wiki, and I saved it. Then I asked if anyone had a better verson of it because when I zoom in on it, it gets blurry. Subject 16 18 05:30, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
Regarding the photo you uploaded about Desmond's family tree, I cannot view it clearly.
Are these good enough? Subject 16 18 05:30, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
You know those are both completely wrong and speculative, right? I've made family trees here based on actual facts and not speculation. -- Master Sima Yi 11:03, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Also, the images are unsourced. Please source them via the Image policy otherwise they will be deleted soon. -- Master Sima Yi 11:13, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
I just noticed how speculatory those two images were... How foolish I feel! Subject 16 18 02:35, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
I see... Assuming if I read the Image policy correctly, would you mind if one is made using your family tree? Subject 16 18 05:30, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
If it will only be used on here, then I wouldn't mind. If the image will be used on other sites, then I would mind. -- Master Sima Yi 06:22, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
I'll get to working, then. Subject 16 18 06:28, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Sima, if you don't mind, I'd like to point out a small detail you may have overlooked in the Auditore part of your family tree. This image shows that Domenico Auditore is Giovanni's great-grandfather, so technically, the number of generations isn't unknown. Domenico's son's name is also shown but it's a bit too unclear to read (could be Ilario). Ubi should've added a higher res version of that chart either in the game or the Encyclopedia. Gabriel Auditore 10:44, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
I know, but I don't know if it would look better to add "Unknown person" two times. Would just be stretching it unnecessarily. And I'd also have to add their spouses. Personally I find the whole Auditore family tree to be a bit vague because Domenico's son was born not too long after 1296, while Giovanni was born in 1436. There must have been at least three generations between them, I would think. -- Master Sima Yi 11:47, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
You're right, it does look better as it is. Maybe write "2 Generations" or something instead lol. Gabriel Auditore 13:30, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Sima, I did them. Yes, them. Aside from doing a full Desmond chart showing his linage from Aquilus to his parents, I did Altair, Ezio, Aquilus and Accipiter, and Daniel Cross. Do you want those as well (I'm still posting them)? And if you could, can you tell me if the full Desmond chart is clear enough?
Desmond's Family Tree- from Aquilus to his parents
From Umar ibn La'Ahad to Desmond Miles
From Aquilus and Accipiter to Desmond Miles and Jonathan Hawk
They look alright, if a little sloppy at times. Though you didn't get Aquilus' family tree completely right, Accipiter is Aquilus' cousin but we don't know if it is from his mother or father's side. What do you want to use them for? -- Master Sima Yi 08:30, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, they look a bit sloppy, but when I tried to even it out, my stomach would start hurting badly so leaving them like that was the best looking option. I was thinking, for the Daniel and Nikolai one, we could post it on one of their pages. For the others, maybe we put the full Desmond one on his page, the Umar to Desmond on Altair's page, and the Domenico to Desmond on Ezio's page. What do you think should be done about Aquilus? Subject 16 18 11:07, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
I was actually already thinking of putting the coded on-wiki family trees to their respective pages and put them in collapsibles, like on Wikipedia. They would be more oversee-able and less white, and neater, I think. They can also be easily updated once they need to be changed. -- Master Sima Yi 11:44, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Hold a vote for the family tree thing, I vote we do it; it would clear up quite a few confusions that a lot of people have, and it would result in less people going "But I thought Ezio and Altair were related?"
I had actually been working on a family tree myself (for personal use) for about two weeks, but I only got around to finishing it yesterday. What do you think?
Full Genealogy chart It's a bit disorganized but I wanted to include everything. Also, provided that we go with the on wiki family tree thing, I'd suggest we highlight all the uncertainties so that people don't speculate.
I don't know if a vote would be really necessary if we put it in a collapsible like the game templates at the bottom (where you click on [Show] and [Hide]). It would only be for the main characters anyways; and we add additional information. In regards to your own family tree, it looks good aside from a few things that we don't know about like Ilario being Domenico's son, Iskender being Desmond's ancestor and Ezio being an ancestor of William and Altaïr being an ancestor of Desmond's mother. -- Master Sima Yi 12:42, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Go for it, a lot of people would appreciate the clarity a family tree provides. I mentioned the part about Iskender at the bottom, how he could be an ancestor and also about how he couldn't be an ancestor (it is marked as an uncertainty in the actual tree). As for the Ezio/William, Altair/Desmond's mom part, I thought it was mentioned in an interview with Darby McDevitt or something, anyways, it can be edited. Finally, as much as I hate making assumptions, since there in the canon Desmond genealogy chart, Domenico's son has a name (which isn't that clear) and Ilario is the only other named Auditore we know, who falls under the same time period, I'm assuming it's Ilario. I wonder if there's some way to enhance the low res image from the Abstergo file and confirm this... Gabriel Auditore 12:56, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
I vote for it's use on the character's personal wikis. And it will probably stop some people from saying "I thought Ezio and Altair were related". So... Is this a yes with the collapsible family trees, then? Subject 16 18 02:44, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
something all of yall forgot. adam is directly connected to ezio, altair, connor, and aquilus (assuming they all have eagle vision) and illario auditore actually has been confirmed. (Arabian411269 21:17, April 28, 2012 (UTC))
all the above charts are wrong. there are too many variables to consider. ezio was laying alot of pipe in his youth so thats alot of possibilities for the kaczmarek line. and who says they cant be decendents of sofia sartor either?
like i said too many (Arabian411269 21:29, April 28, 2012 (UTC))
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