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Disambiguating for the Order of the Ancients

While looking at the pages in the Category:Order of the Ancients members, I noticed that we had two ways of doing so: (Ancient) like in Cyrus (Ancient) and (Ancients) like in the page this is a talk for. At this point, I don't want to get into whether these pages should be the principal page for their names, that's another discussion, but we should decide on a uniform way of disambiguating for the order. Thoughts? - Soranin (talk) 11:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

The problem is that, as far as I know, there isn't a clear demonym used for the Order of the Ancients canonically. "Ancient(s)" sounds fine to me except that other users have mentioned on Discord that it has canonically been used for Isu. If "Ancient(s)" has never been canonically used as a demonym for a member of the Order of the Ancients, then it cannot stand as the disambiguating term because it actually denotes an Isu. The suggestion "OoA" or "OotA" came up, but I think using informal acronyms and abbreviations does not fit the formal encyclopedia style and looks sloppy. This is as opposed to something like (FBI) which is an instantly recognizable and official acronym. At this point, my only suggestions can be either to use the full "(Order of the Ancients)", as a lengthy as it may be, or to use "the Order", which is what is used in Dynasty. Concerns have been expressed that "the Order" can refer to both the Order of the Ancients and the Templar Order, but they are synonymous enough that for the purposes of a disambiguating term, I don't think it matters. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 19:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)