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Ezio's Outfit?

How do we know Ezio's robes will be available? The article lacks a source explaining that.

Sackchief (talk) 01:13, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

You can unlock Ezios Brotherhood robes using Uplay. Lucan07^Talk 02:31, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

What explanation does there need to be? It's from Uplay. Would you like a photo? Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 02:41, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Remove the "Help expand this article"

This is obviously not the case. In an article about Outfits, it doesnt actually contain all the outfits. Also there isn't another article open that contains the missing outfits.

Also even though the pic was bad quality, It is currently the only one of that outfit on the internet. So it wouldnt of hurt to leave it untill a better one is created. (Im on an xbox and that was my phone) XDarkPhoenixX (talk) 18:57, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I do not wish to anger you, but when it comes to pictures, let the PC'ers handle it. 'kay? Also, you use Paint.Net too? Hoodie

Yea I use Paint.Net. I know that It is far better to use a PC for the pics (Or a console running through a HD PVR). But literally there are no pictures of the AC3 dyes anywhere so I figured why not. Anyway... -XDarkPhoenixX (talk) 19:19, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

The Customization article is there for a reason. And there's no point in adding blurry pictures from consoles taken with 8mm cameras. In 19 days we'll have the measures to add proper pictures. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 19:06, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

The Customization article doesn't have anything on AC3 and google gives the outfits page when searching for AC3 outfits. Also in 19 days there wouldnt really be any point to pictures as most of the people who own AC3 whould have beaten/gone far enough through it to not need them.

-XDarkPhoenixX (talk) 19:19, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't have anything on AC3 simply because no info was added yet. Also, how stupid is that sort of argumentation. "Because people who bought it on the release day already know about the outfits, we shouldn't add info for others who don't have the game yet." Did you even think that through? --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 19:43, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I kinda have to agree with Primus here. Sooner or later, YT will leak all. Hoodie

Where did I say it should never be added? I simply said the point becomes lost, Instead of helping everyone, you end up only helping the people who wont have it in the next couple weeks. So there is no true point, it becomes simply an archive of info instead of something activly helping everyone. Where is the help for the some 100s of thousands of people (Possibly millions, breaking preorder records and all) who already have the game. That was simply what I meant.

Also the Info about all current availible Outfits (Including the two missing from the article) and dyes, is already availible, just not here... >.> XDarkPhoenixX (talk) 20:54, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

So basically your point is that you have no point. Having the entire wiki operating this long after the release of the first AC also seems pointless from your way of thinking. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 21:34, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

TBH I'd rather have the pics on here, at least until someone takes the PC pictures. It's been how long since then, almost 4 weeks? Still no darn picture. And that means a lot of people who are unsure about the different outfits can't customize without losing their money if they dislike the outfit. Shitty picture = much more helpful than nothing at all. LordSchmee (talk) 13:02, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Shitty picture = a lot more space taken on the wiki unnecessarily. Shitty picture also = a lot more work for the admins who have to delete all of them later. Nevertheless, Vatsa has started uploading high quality images, so they should be up soon enough. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 14:21, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

1. It's not unnecessary, as it allows people a reference. Even if you had a LIST of links to photobucket or some such place, rather than in the gallery. They're ALWAYS better than nothing. 2. It's the admins' job to do what's best for the wiki, even if it's tedious. So sorry, they don't get to use the "it's too much hassle" excuse. Nonetheless, I'm pleased to hear about Vatsa's uploads. LordSchmee (talk) 14:39, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

May I remind you that admins are also here on their own accord, and for their own fun? Furthermore, we have a Manual of Style to adhere to, as well as a certain standard that we need to upkeep. Anyway, the matter is settled, so let us leave it at this. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 14:48, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

That may well be, but they're also here to maintain the articles to the best possible utility they can have. And that does mean some tedious work sometimes, but if you're not willing to do that? Then you shouldn't be a wiki admin. If you're not willing to actually WORK or want to cut corners for convenience, then it sounds like you're just an admin for "the glory" of it. Not speaking about you specifically, let me point out, I'm speaking of the general "you." If an admin is that lazy, they should step down and give their post to someone who is willing to do the work. That's how it works in the real world, I'm afraid. OP had a pretty good idea - an idea that enhances the usefulness of the articles, which is the entire point of having an archive in the first place, to provide information. Even in scientific research they'll use placeholders until better information is available (thus, your "standard" that you like to upkeep is meaningless - utility is ALWAYS a priority over quality), so the ONLY reason for the lack of it on this article is the aforementioned laziness. LordSchmee (talk) 15:00, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

"WAH, ADMINS ARE LAZY BECAUSE THEY TAKE PRIDE IN HAVING A GOOD LOOKING WIKI AND I CAN'T POST SHITTY PICTURES!"

*cough*

Efficiency outweighs utility, and making it harder for Staff and Admins to keep the wiki tidy and organized isn't required here. Some of us also have jobs or educations to cater to, you know, the things that we do to earn money or learn so that we can earn more money. Just because we're not pandering to your expectations of no-lifing the Wiki, it doesn't mean we're awful, awful people. Slate Vesper (talk) 18:12, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'm a uni student, too. Full time, in fact. In four days a week and most of my time is spent on study and/or assessments of which there seems to be no end to. I have work at the weekends as well. And even I know I'd have the spare time to remove what, around 10 images from a gallery? You don't even need to remove them from the database, god knows I've seen pretty stupid user-submitted pics in there for talk pages and what not. All it takes is the removal from the gallery on the page for it. 

And no - not in this case. When the inconvenience to staff at keeping the wiki "tidy and organized" is so miniscule and easy to rectify once the placeholders are no longer necessary, then utility takes priority. Utility always takes priority unless it's NIGH ON IMPOSSIBLE to implement and the benefits are little. The benefits here are clearly huge, and the "problems" caused by implementing them are pretty darn easy. Hell, make me an admin. I'll do it for you, and clean it up, too. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out - if one student can do it, a team of admins should be able to do it, too. If they claim they can't, yes, they are neglecting their duties, and are thus being lazy.

Or, they're just being stubbornly power-hungry and once an admin claims one thing, they stick by it. "We must keep the page in pristine condition, even if that means neglecting its actual purpose!" LordSchmee (talk) 21:00, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

"stubbornly power hungry" -> I really find it funny how we turned this Wiki into a place where the community ACTUALLY HAS A SAY in things instead of none at all - as is how it used to be - and people still accuse us of being 'power hungry' and more such nonsense. No problem! This is something I really want to read when I come home from a pointless, stressful day, coming here in my spare time, hearing someone tell me how to be an admin on a Wiki I have been an admin on for about three years. Poor adminship is surely how this Wiki got to where it is now.

Ego rant aside, 'you don't even need to remove them from the database' is nice in theory but not in practice. Removing an image from an article merely results in three people continuously and stubbornly adding it back to pages - for no other reason I can think of than 'just for the hell of it'. Thus we have to delete them, and I can tell you that both me and Vatsa have literally spent hours cleaning up images because there are simply so many of them added - most of them pre-release pictures from trailers, in such terrible quality that you would nearly say you can't make out what's on the image. And quite frankly, spending hours on just removing images while also doing other admin duties, and both me and Nesty being students, is not very reasonable. We come here out of free will too, for pleasure and duty, not hard and mindless labor to clean up after other people's mess. We have also had a, yes, strict image policy, which has been there for quite some time now.

In short, while this all my come off as 'uh uh power hungry dictating' (I apologize for my attitude, I'm really not having my day), but we are just as much human beings too and we are all part of this community - admins included. There is no harm in waiting a bit for high quality images, especially when our primary focus is information and not being a guide or anything. Our policies and standards have been here for a long time now and all our main contributors have accepted it. We aspire to be a high quality database, first and last. I, personally, do not have any problems with pre-release images provided they are of acceptable quality, do not take down the article's quality, and are removed (and not lost into the Wiki abyss) once clearer pictures are available. And that is all I will say on the matter. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 21:27, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Surely, then, if your priority is information, then you would not be opposed to LQ images on the gallery, until better ones have been taken (really, a month since release and it's still not been done?). Or fine, forget the gallery. Are you against having an external links section with links to each of the dye/outfits from an external site, such as tumblr, photobucket, or flickr, etc? Surely that is in line with your guidelines until better quality images are finally brought to the page? LordSchmee (talk) 21:54, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

"captain of the Aquila" Magjor diffrences between pre-order and sailing

Hi. I have the Captain of the Aquila outfit as provided by Amazon pre-order, but it is not the exact outfit worn while sailing the high seas.

The blue on the pre-order outfit is a lighter, more pale hue, and the tail of the coat doesn't seporate like the one worn on the seas.

The trimming is very diffrent and more ornate in the pre-order outfir, and the cuffs are larger and white.

I don't know weather Conner wears britches (colonial pants that stop shortly before the knee so stockings can be worn) or not when he's sailing, as he is wearing boots, but with the pre-order outft he defineitly is, and he is wearing buckle shoes.

There are also two gun holsters, one of witch isn't useable.

the straps around his troso are white, not leather, in the pre-order.

the collars are vastly diffrent.

and one important thing (to me) is that Conner wears a Cravat in the pre-order outfit.

outfit that is worn while sailing

[outfit that is the pre-order bornus from amazon. ]

There are two many diffrences for the outfits to be considred the same, and I think that shoulqd be reflected in this article.

yours, Flutterwhat. (posted as 24.233.122.125 15:29, November 2, 2012 (UTC))

They are different outfits completely. The one he wears during naval adventures is his personal uniform, the other is the original Captain of the Aquila's outfit - Preserved in the aquilas hold - Game description.Trever09 ^{A place for Chivalry | Blog} 18:36, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Connor's Outfit after the Game

Where his hood is down and he has a haircut. Should this be counted as an outfit? RiftMan (talk) 04:39, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure on this one. If you are wearing Achilles' Original Outfit, his hood stays up. I think it should just be a variation of his normal outfit. --Jjacobmartinn (talk) 04:44, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Altair's Outfit

Does anyone already have Connor in Altair's Outfit? Or at least describe how he looks like on the page? Is it the same outfit from Revelation or the original? I am actually still working on getting 100% in the sequences and get the outfit myself.

Revelations. However the lower back of the outfit looks like it's stuck to Connor's legs, it moves when only he moves.~Randy

All outfits

Will it be possible to get every outfit? I've read about outfits being available on certain editions only and I couldn't buy every single one... So will they be unlockable? —unsigned comment by 124.176.81.54 (talk · contr)

Even if the outfits are version exclusive, they always add them in as bonus material for DLC so you can expect to get them later, just not right now. ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 11:46, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

HD Screenshots

Any ETA on some?Trever09 ^{A place for Chivalry | Blog} 20:01, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. When the game's released on PC and we'll have it. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 21:25, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Missing temporary outfit?

Doesn't the outfit that Connor wore during the first mission of Sequence 4 count as a temporary outfit? And if it does, shouldn't it be listed here? 24.187.189.165 01:38, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

It's just the Kanien'kehá:ka outfit on a different model. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 01:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Addition of Washington DLC outfit/Possible outfits.

should we add another section for The Tyranny of King Washington outfits?

What other outfits? We already have his Animal Spirit outfit on the page. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 17:43, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

An image of the outfit still needs to be added, however. Slate Vesper (talk) 17:53, February 22, 2013 (UTC)Addition of Washington DLC outfit/Possible outfits.

I'll get you the image, having finally managed to get the goddamn thing to work. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 13:58, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Missing Spirit Animal Outfit?

I achieved 100% synch rate both in AC3 and Tyranny... DLC, yet said outfit is not present in Connor's mansion. I have read on some forums that Ubisoft did not add it to the game yet, but while reading this wiki page I'm under an impression that I am the only one missing on it. So is it just me not having that outfit available, or is it all of us? In case its everyone I suggest that it should be added that its not implemented in the game yet. YessMasster (talk) 12:57, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell the Spirit Animal outfit is only worn by Ratonhnhaké:ton in the Tyranny. Also, unless you played the Betrayal and Redemption, you only have 33% sync with the Tyranny. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 14:22, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, then it seems I was confused. I thought one could unlock the outfit for use in normal game. Maybe it should be pointed out in the text for clarity?

Also, I believe that the synch counter in game is separate for each episode, as when I am loading the saved game I can see 100% completion in the menu (i have PC version and bought season pass, instead of single episode on uplay) hence earlier I said i achieved 100% synch. YessMasster (talk) 14:34, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Haytham's outfit

Should we ad it at the temporary Outfit section and some photos?

--ACsenior (talk) 20:35, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Along with his regular robes, suggest adding unhooded Connor (as a screenshot), Haytham without a hat (as a screenshot), and maybe moving three main outfits (Haytham, Connor and Animal Spirit) to "Regular robes".

Hlelia (talk) 03:23, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Assassin's Outfit Varriants

There should be info on these... I added some, but as for photos, this wikia has a weird policy that I don't understand -- so if someone wouldn't mind uploading Boston Outfit Picture, Jamestown Outfit Picture, and Charleston Outfit Picture (all from here) I'd be grateful. = SamousInd. ^(talk) 00:00, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

See Customization/Gallery. Just like previous games, they're dyes, not outfits. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 01:08, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Could that be linked or referenced somehow? There's no way I would ever of found that on my own. I actually searched for ACIII outfits and never came across any information regarding those outfits, since I'm not a veteran AC player, I had no idea about the dye thing. Shouldn't the Wikia be developed in a way to easily access information, such as this? Perhaps I'm just a rambling newbie to the ACIII franchise, and my opinion in biased... = SamousInd. ^(talk) 06:17, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

It has been done. ~ GI Auditore ^{Comms Channel} 06:35, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Past Tense?

Why is everything writen in the past tense? Why "...outfits were available to..." enstead of the more common "...outfits are available to..."? Are they no longer available? It sounds funny. No other ohter wikis are written that way.

Two reasons: 1) It is no longer 1800; Revolutionary America is not in the present, it is in the past. 2) Our Manual of Style dictates that unless something is explicitly mentioned as still existing in the modern day (e.g. New York City, the Grand Temple, Abstergo Industries etc.) we use past tense to maintain consistency across all our articles. Also, I think you will find most Wikia wikis' use past tense in their articles... --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 12:04, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Achillies Outfit Experimentation 

I have worn both Connor's original Assassin Robes and Achillies Robes throughout the game. I happen to look at the life bar  during a fight and seen that it took less damage than I remember. I stopped fighting back for a bit to see how long it took for him to go critical. Not too long, but enough to make me wonder. To be sure, I switched it out, put on Connor's and went through the same deal. I seen that he took a bit more damage than Achillies Robes, went to critical a bit faster. I am not sure that if this is a glitch or if I'm seeing it wrong, but has anyone ever bothered to try this out. Can someone try this out and see if I'm right or wrong in the matter. If I'm wrong, that is fine, but if I'm not, this could be an interesting discovery, that Achillies robes does provide protection. Anyone willing to try this out?Mr.DarkBlade (talk) 19:26, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Acording to War Letters Achilles outfit orignially belonged to John De La Tour the first Colonial Assassin whom was working for the French Assassin Council

With that in minds i have to assume that Connor's outfit was worn by Achilles during his time before becoming Mentor in 1745. So he must have worn this at 1740 because Tabai sent him to the colonies to establish the Colonial Brotherhood.

I also think that because Achilles was captain of the Aqulia in 1750 he could have worn Conor's aqulia outfit aswell.