User talk:The Crimson Eagle

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Absence

Hey, Crimson. I've seen you've been absent for quite a while -- I wanted to check in and make sure you're doing alright. How're things? I hope you're planning to rejoin us soon. Hope to hear from you! DarkFeather ^{Raven's Nest}_{Raven's Hunt} 04:21, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there Cream. Hows things old friend, life treating you well? (Sorry for piggy-backing off of this Dark :>) --Fragment ^-Animus- 18:33, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies for the absurdly late reply, but I am doing well, thank you. I think I might start being active here again, as I have nothing but free time right now, and I've recently gotten back into the series. I finally got around to finishing Unity last month, and I'm mopping up side activities before I get Syndicate. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 20:57, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Weapon articles issues

Hey Crimson Eagle, so since you said that you're the one who handled most of the weapons articles, I was thinking perhaps you and I could just discuss some of the unresolved issues and resolve them given that no one else seems interested enough in the matter or ever responded to discussions I set out about them.

1) I noticed at Common Sword that you have already decided on one of the issues, that is whether an article should concern a specific model of a sword or whether it should concern that type of sword in general. You chose the former, and I'm fine with that precedent. I think my only hesitation about that route initially is that I thought having to proper noun the names was a bit awkward grammatically even though it'd be correct if they're about specific models.

However, I'm not sure if that necessarily should be the case with all weapons, such as some of those in Unity. For spear, I have already chosen the article to represent spears across all media, not just the specific Spear in Unity. We should also remember that there are also weapons in novels and comics too, not just the games.

A compromise might be to have both articles on the weapon in general and articles on specific models of weapons, so Spear in general and Spear (Unity). This would resolve the confusion over how at this point, it would probably be better to have an article about pistols or flintlock pistols in general, but then flintlock pistols of different games are different models. (I personally find that the article firearms is simply too broad).

2) I might add here that I am firmly opposed to our practice of using articles that represent general categories titled in the plural. Part of this is because it's a bit arbitrary now. For example, we have firearms in the plural because users argue that it's a "group" as opposed to more specific weapons, but "pistols" can also be argued to be a group. As well, the distinction between what constitutes a group/category and what does not is purely a gameplay element—the examples brought up by one of the editors being mercenaries—and also we have extended this practice to many articles in general, a group or not, such as foxes and eagles. Moreover, anything can be "grouped".

Are maces general enough to be a group? What about long swords since there are several types? I think that it is arbitrary to say that "firearms" is 'groupey' enough to be in the plural, but more specific guns are not, such as pistols, even though there are more specific types of those as well. I think we should just go by Wikipedia or Wookieepedia's practice of not arbitrarily assigning each specific things as a tier in categorization (e.g. would tables be on the same tier as firearms?) that warrants pluralization. We originally had this practice to emulate the way of classification in Assassin's Creed games, but they are not consistent across all media. Unity, for example, distinguishes "rifles" and "pistols" rather than having the category "firearms". Just like there is an article on blaster, articles on blaster rifle and blaster pistol, and an article on DC-15A blaster rifle, not to mention an article on lightsaber, double-bladed lightsaber, and Anakin Skywalker's first lightsaber, we should just have an article on "firearm", an article on "pistol", and articles on specific models of pistols. We shouldn't feel like we have to have two exact tiers: a "group" one and an article on the specific model of a weapon in that group. This is too limiting for our articles to represent the reality and is not the practice of any academic source as far as I know.

These are the first two issues off the top of my head. I think there are more though. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 05:50, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

I like your idea on having Spear and Spear (Unity) as separate articles, as I think that's a fair compromise. We do have a Long weapons article though, so that should be considered here. As for the second issue, I have no objection with changing articles to say "Pistols", "Rifles", or whatever have you instead of "Firearms". That sounds good to me. In my defence, when I wrote those articles, pistols were the only firearms we had, and I didn't think we'd get rifles in Unity. I also don't mind if we create articles for Rifle and Pistol, since we do have a Blunderbuss one, I think. As for titling articles in plural or singular (as in Swords, Blunt weapons, Firearms), I don't have much of an opinion on that matter. I can see justification for using plural and singular, so I'll just roll with whatever it is we use. There'd be a lot of redirects for me to fix though, if we revert to singular. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 11:57, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

Games list

Going through that list of games you have on your userpage, might I take a moment of your time to highly suggest you get the Witcher games, or at the very least The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 14:07, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

Well, you wouldn't be the first. I'll look into it at some point, but I haven't had an awful lot of time for games this year. I've been busy with other things. I've only recently finished Unity's main story, and I don't own Syndicate yet. From what I hear about it, I'm not even sure I want to. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 13:06, August 12, 2017 (UTC)

That's fair. For what it's worth, I enjoyed Syndicate way more than I did Unity. The game doesn't take itself too seriously, which works to its benefit. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:49, August 14, 2017 (UTC)