Talk:Juan Borgia the Younger

Killed by Cesare?

in AC:Ascendance it's said that cesare killed juan borgia the elder for power. are sure it is really giovanni.79.97.100.160 17:14, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Juan Borgia the Elder Ezio kills. Campbell430 17:16, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

that's a different person, possibly even Juan the Elder's son. i think UbiGabe mentioned that in one of his tweets ages ago. anyway, i'm just passing on what the movie said.79.97.100.160 17:29, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i've done the research and this guy is juan borgia the elder, and the one killed by ezio is his son, i'm certain79.97.100.160 23:00, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Juan Borgia the Elder: Cardinal-nephew of Pope Alexander VI. Killed by Ezio.

Juan Borgia the Younger: son of Pope Alexander VI, brother of Cesare and Lucrezia. Killed by Cesare.

Period. -- Master Sima Yi 23:07, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Uh. . . I haven't seen Ascendance (yet), but are we sure that that isn't a picture of Juan Borgia the Elder? Cause it looks a hell of a lot more like him than it does Cesare's brother. O.o 65.5.183.85 19:07, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. I'm not an idiot... Not THAT much of an idiot, at least. That is Juan Borgia the Younger. -- Master Sima Yi 20:32, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeesh. And here I actually though Ascendance looked decent. :P 65.5.183.85 20:47, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well guys, I don't think it's an error on any of our parts. Usually the AC creators are pretty accurate with appearances, but...I really think Ascendance was done by an associated part or something because I'm pretty sure the artists mixed up the two Juans. The one in the picture just can't be Cesare's brother going by historical knowledge. I mean, when I watched it, I immediately saw a problem, as did others with me. User:Durmer Darc 20:09, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

How about making a note of it under "Trivia", and adding "as he appears in Assassin's Creed: Ascendance" to the caption under the picture? 98.192.42.30 18:59, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously?! Seriously, you guys? (See trivia section to see what I'm ranting about. :P ) I think we can all agree that it's obviously a mistake made by the artists/directors of the film, no? Wouldn't it make much more sense to put something like, "It is likely that the creators of Ascendance confused Juan with his older cousin," rather than not acknowledging the discrepancy? Guardian Assassin 20:52, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Right. One, we have no idea why Juan looks like his older cousin. Developers were to lazy, confused, we don't know. So unless a developer announces why Juan the Younger looks exactly like his cousin, it stays the way it is. Assassino de Roma 20:57, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Even though it is obviously a mistake? Guardian Assassin 21:10, May 24, 2011 (UTC)