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Talk:Jesus of Nazareth
There is no evidence Jesus ever lived, or is it? If not, the template stating this is wrong.Flying sheep 17:31, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Jesus is a fact, either you agree with it or not. Some people believes it existed, some people believe it don't, but the character sure is real. Please refrain from those high-religious discussions since it causes unnecessary turmoil in peaceful waters. -- D. Cello 17:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
- you stumbled here: either something is fact, or “you agree with it or not”. so if some believe in it and some not and there is no evidence for both “this page is about a real/historical person” is a wrong statement and should be changed to “this page is about a person whose existence is believed in, but not proved” or something. that’s not religious. it’s religious to think something’s a fact, no matter it’s proved or not. ‒ Flying sheep 17:31, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
- The guy exists, either in our world or in people's minds. Except for atheists and other religions extremists, Christ is mostly regarded to have been a real person. But to keep it in the AC universe, Al Mualim says he existed, so he's real. -- D. Cello 03:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- if he is, i want a source: i heard about documents proving his existence, but i don’t know if they exist. and stuff existing in people’s minds and nowhere else is mostly regarded to be delusion. ‒ Flying sheep 16:22, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Join a archeological expedition, then. Use your lifetime to search the Middle-East for proof of his existence. To this wiki (and me, per therefore, since my personal oppinions won't interfere with my wikiduties) only two things matter: Our timetable counts year as AC and BC, Anno Dommini and what not, with the 0 year being Jesus' birth. And Al Mualim says he was just a carpenter who used a PoE, so he was real. -- D. Cello 19:48, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- i am sure many people more interested in jesus than me wasted their lifes searching for his remains/stuff. and this is neither about the in-game world nor about some ancient tradition, i’m talking only about the sentence “This page describes a person, place, thing or event that exists (or existed) in real life.”. ‒ Flying sheep 22:07, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Join a archeological expedition, then. Use your lifetime to search the Middle-East for proof of his existence. To this wiki (and me, per therefore, since my personal oppinions won't interfere with my wikiduties) only two things matter: Our timetable counts year as AC and BC, Anno Dommini and what not, with the 0 year being Jesus' birth. And Al Mualim says he was just a carpenter who used a PoE, so he was real. -- D. Cello 19:48, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- if he is, i want a source: i heard about documents proving his existence, but i don’t know if they exist. and stuff existing in people’s minds and nowhere else is mostly regarded to be delusion. ‒ Flying sheep 16:22, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- The guy exists, either in our world or in people's minds. Except for atheists and other religions extremists, Christ is mostly regarded to have been a real person. But to keep it in the AC universe, Al Mualim says he existed, so he's real. -- D. Cello 03:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- you stumbled here: either something is fact, or “you agree with it or not”. so if some believe in it and some not and there is no evidence for both “this page is about a real/historical person” is a wrong statement and should be changed to “this page is about a person whose existence is believed in, but not proved” or something. that’s not religious. it’s religious to think something’s a fact, no matter it’s proved or not. ‒ Flying sheep 17:31, June 5, 2010 (UTC)