Talk:Shao Jun (non-canon)

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Enough content?

Is there actually enough new content that differs from the canon stuff to require a full article rather than just annotating it in Behind the scenes? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 20:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I am so happy to see The Wikia Editor back, but I think there should've been a discussion before making a separate article for the same character on the basis of non-canonical events about them. This is very unprecedented. I propose that this page be deleted. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 22:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't say unprecedented since we have Desmond Miles (non-canon), William Miles (non-canon), Clay Kaczmarek (non-canon), and Lucy Stillman (non-canon). But maybe there should be a discussion for merging those into their main articles in the behind the scenes section as well. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 22:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd be fine with keeping this, even with making more seperate articles covering noncanon. But I agree it needs more content. Isn't Desert Threat 100% original noncanon. VilkaIsBack (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for correcting me on that Lacrosse. It was a silly mistake. But then I stand with your original inquiry about whether there is enough content (or whether the content is different enough) to warrant Shao Jun having another article. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 01:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I can't say whether there is enough distinct content, since I haven't read Ming Storm in quite a while and The Desert Threat at all, but I will say that the article should probably be renamed to "Shao Jun (non-canon)" both to bring it under the standard set by the French comics and to make the intent clearer. - Soranin (talk) 02:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

going off that, say a Shao Jun story gets featured in Visionaries and we wanna make an article about that Shao Jun. What then? VilkaIsBack (talk) 02:22, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Considering that those get at most 12 comic pages, I'd argue a paragraph. - Soranin (talk) 02:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

It's been a while since I read the novel but I think it deserves it's own section as it deviates sometimes significantly from the source material (AccesTheAnimusArticle) and it got two sequels down the line that are completely original story's focusing on Shao Jun. Another question if the article stays and users decide to put a personality segment in there, could that potentially be confusing for readers if there are multiple non-canonical versions of said character in one article or should we just ignore the personality segment? FalconBrowser) 08:25, 20-05-2024 (UTC)

Hey everyone, it's been a while. I'll admit that the article's creation was a bit of a spur-of-the-moment thing after discussing it with FalconBrowser. I would argue that a trilogy of three novels, the latter two being completely original stories to boot, might warrant a separate page, as it would likely contain way too much information to simply be put in the trivia section of the main article. I initially planned to name it "Shao Jun (non-canon)" in accordance with our existing naming convention, but wasn't sure on whether or not Visionaries would similarly warrant into its own page in the future, although from what I've read so far, it seems unlikely. I'd be fine with changing the page to "Shao Jun (non-canon)" and expand it in the future, assuming that we're going to keep it around that is. I'll communicate more in the future about such controversial page creations prior to making them, rest assured. The Wikia Editor (talk) 14:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

If I may add my hat in here, from what I recall of having read Ming Storm, it does loosely overlap with Chronicles: China info. I'd initially thought we could add its details as a small non-canon section. However, with Desert Threat's release later, I realized it wouldn't be doable, even if it expands on Shao Jun's adventures in Mongolia post-Chronicles, a time period not (yet?) covered in canon media. There's also the Chinese podcast adaptation to consider, which I can only guess will have "supplementary" info to Ming Storm while we wait for the series' last book to hopefully release soon. I also move for a non-canon page like we have for Desmond, etc. – Darman (talk) 15:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)