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:Actually, this page was created to reference both the title and the one, unidentified, individual who hold it (which it does). I'm not entirely sure why "[[Generals of the Cross]]" was created in the first place, since as you pointed out, it isn't consistent with our existing disambiguation practices. We'd be better off simply deleting the "Generals" article, as it serves no purposes beyond duplicating text found here. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato|contributions]])</small> 11:32, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
:Actually, this page was created to reference both the title and the one, unidentified, individual who hold it (which it does). I'm not entirely sure why "[[Generals of the Cross]]" was created in the first place, since as you pointed out, it isn't consistent with our existing disambiguation practices. We'd be better off simply deleting the "Generals" article, as it serves no purposes beyond duplicating text found here. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato|contributions]])</small> 11:32, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
::Although it's true that we currently only know of one individual who holds the rank, the fact still remains that the rank and the individual are two seperate things. I'm pretty sure that this discussion wouldn't even be happening if we at least knew the name of the individual, but the fact that we don't doesn't and shouldn't negate our standard practices with matters such as these. Back when the Black Cross was introduced, we created articles to seperate the character and the rank. Admittedly, we created the articles as "Black Cross" for the characters and "Black Crosses" for the rank, but this was corrected once his name was revealed. I agree with Sol Pacificus that we should be consistent with grammatical convention and move the pages. [[User:The Wikia Editor|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor|talk]]) 17:03, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
::Although it's true that we currently only know of one individual who holds the rank, the fact still remains that the rank and the individual are two seperate things. I'm pretty sure that this discussion wouldn't even be happening if we at least knew the name of the individual, but the fact that we don't doesn't and shouldn't negate our standard practices with matters such as these. Back when the Black Cross was introduced, we created articles to seperate the character and the rank. Admittedly, we created the articles as "Black Cross" for the characters and "Black Crosses" for the rank, but this was corrected once his name was revealed. I agree with Sol Pacificus that we should be consistent with grammatical convention and move the pages. [[User:The Wikia Editor|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor|talk]]) 17:03, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
::I'm a little confused what you mean Jasca when you say that this article was created in reference to both the title and the individual, when the other article is clearly created for the individual. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:38, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:38, 19 April 2017

Move to "General of the Cross (2014)"

The Wikia Editor and I discussed this over on my talk page. I know that this page corresponds to the character whereas Generals of the Cross currently corresponds to the rank. However, it is more proper that the title of the article for the rank itself be singular. Pluralizing it for the sake of disambiguation is a poor method; deviating from grammatical convention to disambiguate between articles is disorganized. Furthermore, it is inconsistent with our other cases, such as Mentor (2000) and the rank of Mentor. I therefore propose that this be moved to General of the Cross (2014). I would enact the move immediately except that I cannot move "Generals of the Cross" to the singular "General of the Cross" without administrative assistance due to this article already existing. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 21:08, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, this page was created to reference both the title and the one, unidentified, individual who hold it (which it does). I'm not entirely sure why "Generals of the Cross" was created in the first place, since as you pointed out, it isn't consistent with our existing disambiguation practices. We'd be better off simply deleting the "Generals" article, as it serves no purposes beyond duplicating text found here. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:32, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
Although it's true that we currently only know of one individual who holds the rank, the fact still remains that the rank and the individual are two seperate things. I'm pretty sure that this discussion wouldn't even be happening if we at least knew the name of the individual, but the fact that we don't doesn't and shouldn't negate our standard practices with matters such as these. Back when the Black Cross was introduced, we created articles to seperate the character and the rank. Admittedly, we created the articles as "Black Cross" for the characters and "Black Crosses" for the rank, but this was corrected once his name was revealed. I agree with Sol Pacificus that we should be consistent with grammatical convention and move the pages. The Wikia Editor (talk) 17:03, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
I'm a little confused what you mean Jasca when you say that this article was created in reference to both the title and the individual, when the other article is clearly created for the individual. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 17:38, April 19, 2017 (UTC)