Talk:Desmond Miles

Added a lot of images and cleaned up the page. Cyberaltair 09:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Desmond is a modern-day assassin. He says so in one of the first cutscenes, while sitting on the Animus.BellicoseIntellect 17:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Like, BellicoseIntellect said Desmond is a modern day assassin. But to expand on it, he said that he wasn't an assassin anymore indicating that either he knows his past life was an assassin or he was an assassin before the events of the game took place.Marku uzamaki 21:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Meaning of Assassin

Desmond says he was an assassin. It is important to note, however, that this doesn't necessarily mean that he was a killer, but (as becomes readily obvious in the conversations outside of the animus) rather a member of a "tribe" following the traditions of their ancestor assassins. He says that he ran away when he was younger, saying he thought that they were "Hippies." He never killed anyone. He was still being trained to fight Templars. And something else: What does "Desmond" mean. It might be interesting sinse both Altair and Ezio are "Eagle."--Werefang 18:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

How does Ranveer2 know that he and Lucy escape Abstergo? Toukashi 00:48, October 19, 2009 (UTC) Scratch that. just read the article. Toukashi 22:25, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ezio means "Eagle" , and Altair means "Bird of prey" and Desmond means "from South Munster". Twomey1993 16:57, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I've just read somewhere that desmond means man of the world. Any1 find anything similar?

Altair means "The flying one". It has no relation to the word "Bird of Prey" unless you pronounce Altair in a different way in Arabic (the incorrect way) changing the meaning to bird, refernce to the eagle. And the eagle is a bird of prey, that's the only relation between Altair and Bird of Prey. Also Desmond does mean "from South Munster". Cyberaltair 09:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

On Spoiler Alerts

I feel as if the section on AC has spoilers too for those who have not yet played the first game (yes, those people still exist). If anyone knows how we should create a template that goes at the top of the page to warn about spoilers. We can look to wikis such as Halopedia for inspiration.

Believe me, I would do it myself but I am unfortunately not that good with creating my own templates using the wiki coding. So if someone could please make one it would be much appreciated. BellicoseIntellect 04:50, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Handedness

Are Desmond and his ancestors (Altair and Ezio) ambidextrous? On the loading screens of both games, Altair, Desmond and Ezio are seen standing southpaw, and in the games, the hidden blades that Altair and Desmond use as well as Ezio's first hidden blade (also the poison blade and the pistol) are used by the left hands. Throwing knives were thrown from their left hands but they wielded their swords right-handed. Is this merely coincidence or are the developers trying to establish a link with the gamers, much like how Link from the Zelda series functions?

H-Man Havoc 16:25, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Concept Art for Assassin's Creed III

File:Assassins-creedguns.jpg

I just found this concept art of Desmond for Assassin's Creed III. Here's the link.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/12/23/assassins-creed-concept-art-packs-some-heat/

Your most honorable servant,

- Beirut

Didn't you read the article? It's no artwork, it's fan art. -_- - Master Sima Yi 12:09, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Genes

"Desmond, like Altair and Ezio, is a born of a bloodline mixed with Assassin and the "Ones Who Came Before" genes."

This is currently in this article's trivia section. Where is it said that they had Those Who Came Before genes? If this were to be true, why didn't Minerva say something along the lines of "you are on of us" when Ezio was in the Vatican Vault? It seems more logical that they were ancestors of Adam and Eve. And somewhere on this wiki it's said that all of them were immune to the Pieces of Eden's powers, which backs it up. Master Sima Yi 12:09, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

If no true source is given, delete it. -- D. Cello 02:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

In one of the Truth Glyphs, Assassins are explained as "born of two worlds" (humans and Gods (Those Who Came Before). And its possible that Ezio is STILL a descendant of Adam and Eve, should they be assassins or something of the like. Not all assassin's were immune to Pieces of Eden. In Masyaf, only Altair and a few other assassins were not affected by the Apple. Being a descendent of Altair, Ezio may be immune (like when he fought Borgia as the Pope) but it may be that he was holding another Piece.

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From the Adam and Eve article: "If Adam and Eve were in fact immune to the Piece's of Eden then this would mean that Altair and Ezio were descendants of Adam and Eve. This would also mean that Subject 16 is related to Desmond, possibly his father..."

(I was gonna put this on the Adam and Eve discussion page but I put it on a busier one to try and get more feedback, since it applies to a few pages and seemed to fit in with the Gene question.)

Where was it established that there's only one bloodline that can withstand the Pieces? Isn't it still possible that totally unrelated people could be immune? It looks like the immunity can be inherited, but I haven't seen any indication that it has a single source/line.

There's about 400 years between Ezio and Desmond. Even with a (very long) 50-year generation cycle, that's at least 8 generations. That would mean that Desmond has 256 ancestors in Ezio's generation. We don't *know* that Ezio is the only one in Desmond's ancestry descended from Altair, or even that he's one of Altair's descendants at all. Cello, I'm still looking for the webdoc you mentioned. I'm just going to stay a descendant-agnostic until I find it.

16 and Desmond don't have to be closely related at all to both have Ezio's memories. If Ezio (or any of his children) had more than 1 child, then that could be where 16 and Desmond's lines split. If 16's connection to Altair comes from a different direction (like if they're each from different children of Altair) then Ezio and Altair could be their common ancestors through 2 totally separate trees.

Assuming that ANY humans are not descended from Adam and Eve, it's possible that none of the named characters are descended from them. Altair (probably) wasn't using anything like an Animus, so he doesn't have to be related to get the memory/Truth video. But he still saw it and both 16 and Desmond could see it through Altair's memory of it. 16 seems to have more information, so he's probably related to somebody that was involved, but it still wouldn't have to be Adam or Eve.

Shelkartmarne 17:49, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

You're completelly right. If you don't have a source, doubt it. I believe it was in one of the interviews that french guy gave to gamespot or ign, where he shows the playthorugh and says "In Assassin's Creed II, we play as another of Desmond's Ancestor, like the greatgreatgreatgreatchildren of Altaïr, but this guy is even more badass than Altaïr." But keep your research, if you find otherwise, change the article. =] -- D. Cello 17:58, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hood up

Could someone give me proof that when Desmond's hood is up, it resembles a beak? I have searched everywhere for it, but no results have showed up. Master Sima Yi 20:50, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Xbox Live Avatars? I have seen it in the Avatar Marketplace. EliteMaster117 02:40, January 10, 2010 (UTC)