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I am trying to move page [[Civilian]] to [[Civilians]]. Please delete the redirect page so I can rename it. [[User:NON-STOPPING GAMER2009|NON-STOPPING GAMER2009]] ([[User talk:NON-STOPPING GAMER2009|talk]]) 18:43, June 9, 2020 (UTC) | I am trying to move page [[Civilian]] to [[Civilians]]. Please delete the redirect page so I can rename it. [[User:NON-STOPPING GAMER2009|NON-STOPPING GAMER2009]] ([[User talk:NON-STOPPING GAMER2009|talk]]) 18:43, June 9, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:If you want to move the page, you can make a proposal for it on [[Talk:Civilian]] and list the arguments of why you want to move it. The page has already been moved from [[Civilians]] to [[Civilian]] previously. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 18:49, June 9, 2020 (UTC) | :If you want to move the page, you can make a proposal for it on [[Talk:Civilian]] and list the arguments of why you want to move it. The page has already been moved from [[Civilians]] to [[Civilian]] previously. [[Soldiers]] had also been moved to [[Soldier]], so your moving the page back to Soldiers has been undone as you listed no reason to do so. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 18:49, June 9, 2020 (UTC) | ||
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Chronology of part 2 and 3 of the First Blade
Hello, I see that you updated the timeline. Thank you for that. I think that we need a debate about the actual date of the event of part 2 and 3 of the First Blade, but I personally speculated that it's occurred at the end of the year 424 BCE. Two reasons, when we saw Darius II, he doesn't present himself as a King and I don't see personally a King kept a child so far from his land. The other reason, during the memory Smoke and Fury, we could find a scroll indicating that they will assassinate Artaxerxes. Historically, the son of Artaxerxes Xerxes II took the throne for 45 days before being killed by the next king Sogdianus who stay a few months before Darius II became king.Francesco75 (talk) 17:35, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
- I think these are fair points, but I also don't have the right knowledge to say anything one way or the other. What I've been working from are the dates listed on the respective articles for each of those memories
(or quests). Have you brought this up before with anyone else? -- Master Sima Yi Talk 20:05, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
- No, it is why I think we need a consensus on this matter. The question of the birth of Elpidios is also in question. We can assume that he didn't need maternal milk as Kassandra go on missions, so he is at least six months. So he was born at least in mid 424 BCE. Plus the nine months of pregnancy. So it makes 15 months before December 424 BCE for part 2 of the First Blade, so at least September 425 BCE, it could happen after the battle of Pylos.Francesco75 (talk) 21:20, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
- Kassandra was in prison for most f not all of 424. And I don’t think we can rely on the historical dates of Achaemenid succession since they added uchronic elements like Artaxerxes's exile. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 22:21, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
- Is it in the novel? Because in the game, we escaped pretty quickly from the prison. For Artaxerxes, he fled Persia and make as he was dead.Francesco75 (talk) 05:12, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah in the novel, Kass mentions stuff like the Battle of Delium and the Athenian loss there while she was in prison although she was also out in time for The Knights. I did read game memory and yeah it does seem a much shorter stay but either way she stays in Athens to resist Kleon in the following months. As for Artaxerxes it’s mentioned in game that he’s succeeded by his brother Hystaspes not Xerxes II. Historically Artaxerxes is thought to have had Hystaspes killed so like I said due to the uchronia we can’t really use historical Achaemenid succession. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 06:16, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Kassandra could stay in Athens to resist Kleon but she could also travel through Greece to attack the Cult of Kosmos (Ezio went en mission around Italy during the Liberation of Rome). And historically Artarxexer was succeeded by two other kings before Darius. But I read again the dialogue when Artabanus met Darius, it seemed they speak as he was alive. So it happened before 424 BCE.
- We can have a better chronology that could encompass the novel, the game and historical events. In 429 BCE, Kassandra met Artabanus and Natakas. Between 428 and 426 BCE, Kassandra tracked the Peloponnesian league as Pausanias was historically deposed in 426 BCE. Kassandra participated in the battle of Pylos in 425 BCE and stay in prison between 425 and 424 BCE. So the event of the Legacy of the first blade part 2 and 3 could happen between 426 and 425 BCE, after the death of Pausanias and the battle of Pylos.Francesco75 (talk) 09:03, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Civilians
I am trying to move page Civilian to Civilians. Please delete the redirect page so I can rename it. NON-STOPPING GAMER2009 (talk) 18:43, June 9, 2020 (UTC)
- If you want to move the page, you can make a proposal for it on Talk:Civilian and list the arguments of why you want to move it. The page has already been moved from Civilians to Civilian previously. Soldiers had also been moved to Soldier, so your moving the page back to Soldiers has been undone as you listed no reason to do so. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 18:49, June 9, 2020 (UTC)