Talk:Helix Initiate

Initiate

Well Abstergo Entertainment research analyst isn't exactly a name like Initiate. --Cococrash11 (talk) 00:00, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Name

Bishop keeps calling him Initiate or either kid throughout the game and in the ending. So the name is conjecture. --Cococrash11 (talk) 08:07, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the name will always be conjecture, but "Initiate" still doesn't work. I like Slate's idea of "Helix Initiate". Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 02:31, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Why doesn't it work. Bishop is just Bishop and you didn't think of adding Helix Bishop into it. --Cococrash11 (talk) 03:28, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

...Because there's no other "Bishop" in the AC Universe. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 03:34, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

What about Assassin Initiate or is that taken already. --Cococrash11 (talk) 03:35, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Assassin

Bishop did say if the Initiate watch the Phoenix Project video that mean he joins the Assassins. That would also mean the Initiate is an Assassin. --Cococrash11 (talk) 05:45, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps, but the most predominant feature that they possess is that they were selected as a member of the Helix research/testing group to act as their agent. Even though they soon become involved with the Assassins, "Helix initiate" is a more accessible term. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:49, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

I think the Initiate is the best term since it is short and easy for the readers to find. While article's can have a long name as possible as long it's conjecture but quotes has to be as short as possible that's unfair. --Cococrash11 (talk) 23:53, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Slate's right. "Helix initiate" would be best, same with "Helix research analyst" for Rogue. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 21:26, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Where's the proof that the Protagonist for Rogue is an entirely different character and not the same one from Black Flag. --Cococrash11 (talk) 21:47, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

The proof is in the game. There's a bunch of stuff that shows that it's not the same character, such as: them having a different desk, Melanie telling them about Olivier as if they hadn't met before, and the character not having the security access that they would have otherwise. So, yeah, not the same character. -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 05:48, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

What's "Rouge"? Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 21:57, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Having different desks doesn't mean they aren't the same person; people change desks all the time it could be as simple as that. About Melanie talking about Oliver to the Research Analyst the time period was 2013-2014 a whole year if we assumed the game release year from Black Flag to Rogue is the correct year in the Modern day story. She might thought the Research Analyst forgot about him since it was a year between Black Flag and Rogue and the year of his disappearance began at Black Flag which is 1 year ago. Also some of the security access was given to him by John Standish not from the Templars. They might remove the security access given to him by John. Even if the Templar did give him the previous security access codes and you forgotten one thing when he relive Shay Cormac's memories it released a virus and that virus destroyed all the security codes from last year and had to use new ones given by the Templars. --Cococrash11 (talk) 09:59, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Picture

Should we give him/her a picture? 

File:Initiate.jpg

Awesomekid120 (talk) 21:22, November 22, 2014 (UTC)Awesomekid120

That's an optional avatar for any Initiate, which actually proves my point that anyone could get the two (Initiates/Initiate) confused. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 21:26, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

There's a difference with Initiate and Initiates. They are not so hard to understand that we need to called it Helix Initiate in order to understand the differences. If that's case why not change Initiates into Helix Initiates from we see in AC Initiates the Initiates are also Helix user. --Cococrash11 (talk) 21:51, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

You're not making any sense. The Initiates were around before the Helix servers were used. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 21:57, November 22, 2014 (UTC)