Talk:Alexander the Great

This is the discussion page for Alexander the Great. Here, you may discuss improving the article. To discuss the subject itself, use the Forums.
Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.	Be polite Assume good faith Do not insult other people

Not Greek

Where is this information coming from that he was somehow Greek? He was born to Macedonian parents and was a Prince of Macedon. 22:58, December 6, 2010 (UTC) 70.160.99.253

First, please sign your posts using either four ~'s, or pressing the Signature button. It helps keep track of who is talking. :) Second, Macedon IS in Greece, and was a part of the Greek empire for some period of time. Also, Olympias was from Epirus, another kingdom/region of Greece (near the Albany boarder), not Macedon. -- A Black Rabbit 23:11, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

---What "Greek Empire" are you talking about? The Macedonian one under Alexander?

Actually, there was no such thing as Greek empire then. Just like in italia, they had states in a seperate region. The most know were Macedonia, Athens Sparta Troy( Tria in Greek, the city of the son) and Axaioi, the Greek, i don't know how you call most of these cities in English, i am Greek but i live in US :D

O and yeah alexander, who almost conquered the world then, he was a macedonian, which was one of the most powerfull citys ever existex and he was the best fighter known in the balkans and the mediterranean.

Oh and my signature for my topic about the empire and thge greek cities, ItalianStatesHistory 23:13, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

This quote proves that Alexander is Greek "

• Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay — and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it. As for our foreign troops — Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they — Darius!
  • Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian Book II, 7" 76.232.6.215 23:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so there is something wrong on this page. Firstly, shouldn't Alexander have used the sword instead of the staff? Secondly, Alexander III of Macedon is not Greek! What you have read and heard is all Greek lies. Greece did not exist back then, it was not a country, the word "Greece" or "Greek" wasn't invented therefore that quote is incorrect and it is just one of those lies that has been put in the new history books as the old ones were destroyed by the Greeks to ruin Macedonian history. Modern day Greece back then consisted of city states, e.g. Athens and Sparta and they were under the rule of the Macedonian Empire. Where you have said "Macedon IS in Greece", that is the province in Greece which the Greeks named "Macedonia" just to stir more shit and ruin the history of the true Macedonians. The true Macedonia is a REPUBLIC north of Greece, not the province... anyways Alexander the Great was born in Pella, and at the time Pella was a part of MACEDON! It was never Greek until Macedonia got split up into Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria. Plus Alexander's father, Filip II, was a Macedonian and he KILLED Greeks, so he couldn't have been Greek, which means Alexander the Great ISN'T Greek.

P.S. I don't know how to add in a signiture or get notified of replies and I won't be checking back to see if you replied so don't bother writing back, just fix up the mistakes in the page... thanks.

Did you pull all that information from your ass? The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia who where of Hellenic descent, as opposed to FYROM who are of Slavic stalk. And Philip II was Greek (or Hellenic since they called themselves Hellenes) and participated in the Olympics like his ancestor Alexander I who was publically acknowledged he was Hellenic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_Macedon 76.197.10.74 02:34, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ancient Greece consisted of capital-states, like Sparta, Athens, Thiva and of course Macedonia. Alexander spoke greek, believed in greek gods and even HE said that he was Greek. And if you continue saying "he killed many greeks so he is not greek himself" learn that also sparta and athens hadd war with each other! Aren't they Greeks too? Learn some history, omg. Alexander the Great is of course GREEK! Even Iron Maiden agree with that!

Right in short Alexander was Greek Macedinia was just a state (kingdom in those days) as was sparta and the others mentioned and during the Hellenic period the Greek states where notoriuos for being at constant war with each other. They only very rarely united together and only did so when Greece as a whole was under threat much like England was when Lords had their own armies.

(excuse the spelling as typing with my son on lap is not easy work lol)

Chaos0vt 13:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Templar allies vs. Templar puppets

Hello everyone, I'm just copy-pasting on individual talk pages a question I posted on the Templars article talk which did not get any response.

I noticed (just to stick to 5 out of 6 Assassin Seals targets plus Julius Caesar, as examples) that:

• Gaius Julius Caesar, Cleopatra and Caligula are considered Templar puppets;
• while Xerxes I of Persia, Alexander the Great, Qin Shi Huang are considered Templar allies.

So my question is: where does this piece of information come from? How do we know that the formers were mere Templar-manipulated pawns with little or no personal power, or perhaps were not even aware of being under Templar influence (!), while the latters were able to treat with the Order on an equal position? Is it sourced, or simple speculation? I'd really appreciate any answer. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 21:33, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

I would like to think the categories aren't just assigned randomly based on speculation. Generally, whether they are considered puppets or allies depends on how aware they are of the Templar Order's existence. From what is said in Alexander the Great's article for example, it is clear that there's an alliance there, some kind of collaboration.

I've read through the other articles and you're right in that sometimes the information is a little vague, making it difficult to determine whether the person is a puppet or an ally. I'll ask the other mods to chip in with their opinions as well. By the way, while I understand it's frustrating to not get a response, recreating the same question on all talkpages probably isn't the best solution. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 21:52, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

I think Alexander has the best case for being an ally, having been given a Piece of Eden. Caligula, Cleopatra, and Caesar, as I am reading the articles and sourcing, were supported without their direct knowledge. The information for Qin Shi Huang's reforms and Xerxes' conquests would indicate more direct involvement and knowledge, hence being an ally. This should match the category descriptions. DarkFeather ^{Raven's Nest}_{Raven's Hunt} 15:09, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm butting in, but what do we with the other 5 copy/pastes while this is being resolved in the meantime? Undo them? Leave them? --Darman (talk) 21:55, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

I'm undecided - I think the discussion is probably relevant for all the articles, but at the same time, copying the discussion to all the talk pages seems a little silly. For now, I think we can use this talkpage and, if necessary, we can move it all to the Templars talk page later. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 22:13, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

No, what I meant was "What do we do w/ Piero's copy/paste on the other 5 pgs?" I'm good for moving whatever results we come to on the Templar pg. --Darman (talk) 22:16, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

It may not have been the best solution, but as you can see it did ignite the debate I desired! --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 23:55, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but as has said before: you could've got results another way or simply waited; it's seen as bad form to not do so. Crook, what do we do about about the copied text? --Darman (talk) 00:15, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

Leave it for now and discuss here. DarkFeather ^{Raven's Nest}_{Raven's Hunt} 15:09, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

Alexander the Great Appearance

Hello.I saw that Alenxader the Great is making an appearance on Odyssey.Where was that mentioned,is it in a dlc or what?

Balgoizor (talk) 08:32, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

He doesn't. He is vaguely alluded to. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

MACEDONIA=GREECE

Real Macedonia isGreece. Also Alexander didn't knew the Order of the Ancients was Order of the Ancients. He thought something else.NON-STOPPING GAMER2009 (talk) 15:18, May 24, 2020 (UTC)

And your source for that is? Desert Oath even cites him as the founder even though that turned out to be false it implies a very close relationship at the time. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 15:35, May 24, 2020 (UTC)

Our article doesn't say he wasn't Greek, and it categorizes him as Greek, so there's no issue. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 18:36, May 24, 2020 (UTC)