Talk:Order of the Ancients
Merge with Egyptian Rite of the Templar Order
There's no evidence, as yet, to suggest that the Order of the Ancients and the Egyptian Rite of the Templar Order are the same, or even a related, organisation. As such, there is no reason for these articles to be merged. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:35, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
- I am reviving this topic from back when Origins released, since plenty more information has come with Odyssey, Valhalla, and Valhalla's near-endless expansions/supplementary material (and maybe Mirage?). In keeping with the 2020 community discussion in which I had no part and Sol's proposal to merge Hidden Ones and Assassins on the basis that they kept the same beliefs under a new name, I think we should do the same for the Ancients and Templars. As I recall, even if Alfred betrayed the Ancients and set the foundations that Hugues de Payens and Bernard de Clairvaux used to properly found the Templars, both groups seek Pieces of Eden to amplify their control over humanity. I think the only difference is whether they wanted humanity subservient to the Isu—almost like the Instruments of the First Will, which Shaun Hastings even notes in Valhalla—with themselves as the slave drivers, or if they were fully in the front seat. I also do not think any branch differences, e.g. between the English Rite and the Golden Turtles, are to define the "core" Order, like how the Renaissance-era Spanish Assassins still severed their fingers even if it was no longer required. – Darman (talk) 05:00, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Serpent's design
The serpent of the symbol is identical in its curves and general design to one depiction of Apep in the ancient Egyptian paintings. Curious detail, for certain, but enough to mention in the Trivia? Sadelyrate (siniath) 09:16, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
- Basing the design of the Order's symbol on Apep would make sense, considering how Aya/Amunet and Bayek can be called champions of Apep's opposite, Ma'at; they use her symbol, a feather, in all of their kills. Sadelyrate (siniath) 09:38, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
Zoroastrianism?
Given the article on the Magi, as well as the emblem of the OotA during the Peloponnesian War, I wonder how much the Order is actually based on Zoroastrianism. 'Cause there's starting to be too many shared details. :D Sadelyrate (siniath) 15:10, December 8, 2018 (UTC)
- Have you read Wikipedia’s article on them. It says Herodotos claimed the Magi were Zoroastrian priests who were behind the assassination of Cambyses II and all the shenanigans that followed after. Which is great for my new theory that Cambyses was a Sage which is why OoTA killed him. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 15:41, December 8, 2018 (UTC)
Roman Empire
Think the page could do with some more information on the Order during the founding/time of the Roman Empire - see the French version of the page. —unsigned comment by Jonjoshelvey (talk · contr)