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Hey, I just opened up a [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206 discussion] on our usage of the terms "proto-Assassin" and "proto-Templar". It's a long read, but I think is very important for us to clear this up because our wiki has been rather inconsistent about it, and we could cause some serious problems with it down the line. If you had the time, could you offer your input on it? Thanks. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:54, May 4, 2020 (UTC) | Hey, I just opened up a [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206 discussion] on our usage of the terms "proto-Assassin" and "proto-Templar". It's a long read, but I think is very important for us to clear this up because our wiki has been rather inconsistent about it, and we could cause some serious problems with it down the line. If you had the time, could you offer your input on it? Thanks. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:54, May 4, 2020 (UTC) | ||
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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. DarkFeather (talk) 13:20, January 11, 2016 (UTC)
Infoboxes
Hiya Boofhead! Thanks for your contributions. I would like to request you though to hold off on adding infoboxes to pages with barely any info on them. Not every page needs an infobox and they just extend pages unnecessarily while adding little to no new information as of yet. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 08:22, October 30, 2017 (UTC)
Spoiler tags
Hi there. Please remember to add {{Spoilerhd}} to any Odyssey articles that you create. Please use {{Spoilerhd|5 January 2019}}. Thank you. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:31, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
Oops, my bad. I'll remember that now. Boofhead185 (talk) 12:38, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
Delian Leauge
Hi Boof. I just wanted to clarify a minor point: The Delian League isn't a faction of the Cult of Kosmos, as your recent character article creations suggest. The Delian League (and Peloponnesian League, for that matter) were both infiltrated by the Cult, but are not distinct "departments," for lack of a better term, within the Cult itself. The same goes for all the other divisions, actually. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:52, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Right, so just don't say anything about what division they're in. Just say "a member of the Cult...etc."?? Boofhead185 (talk) 15:55, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, so a "member of the Cult of Kosmos within the Delian League," for example. Or "was considered one of the "Gods of the Agean..." --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:59, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
Gear stats
Non unique gear like mercenary boots have random perks and armor rating as the armor rating is tied to which damage type the first perk boosts. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:28, November 7, 2018 (UTC)
Vargas (spy)
Hi Boofhead,
I see you wrote a page for the spy in the ACReb mission The Escapists. However, it looks like all names for assassinated Priests, Templars, Spies, etc are randomized unless they're part of main missions or Helix Events with plots. XOdeyssusx, Lacrossedeamon, and I already encountered that situation here when XOdeyssusx made a similar page. Just thought you should know. -- Darman (talk) 16:45, September 7, 2019 (UTC)
- Oh dang, my bad. So just delete it then? Thanks for the heads up.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 10:14, September 8, 2019 (UTC)
Sourcing
Hey, man. I just want you know, the sourcing you added like: "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour / Mycenae: Habitations" was reject by Sol Pacificus. Please check the last version of the Sourcing Policy.
(I'm poor at English. If you don't know what I said, please tell me.) --UJ112013 (talk) 13:57, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- What seems to be the issue with it? It's from the game, albeit the Discovery Tour. But The way I've been added discovery tour info doesn't interfere with IU-lore. Since my edits haven't been reverted I just assumed everything was all good and I've been continuing to source as such. Also the Sourcing Policy doesn't say anything about the Discovery Tour.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I did not make it clear. I used to mean the slash is not allowed in the reference. Example: the "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour / Mycenae: Habitations" should be "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour - Mycenae: Habitations" --UJ112013 (talk) 14:38, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I get it now. However we've been using the "/" in all sources relating to the Historical Locations, I've just been following the same format is all. So there's no problem.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 14:42, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I hope so. But, follow who? Follow this policy for the flavor text? This policy for the flavor text has been rejected by Sol Pacificus. You can read the latest version of sourcing policy for the flavor text. The policy made by him has no slash in the reference. (If I still not make it clear, or I made a mistake, sorry about that.) --UJ112013 (talk) 15:23, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry for not noticing this conversation earlier. To clarify, the formatting using slashes for flavour text was proposed by a single user who tried to force the change through our sourcing policy without consultation with the community and despite encountering some objections. It seems that a few users have nonetheless been confused over this and started implementing it against our actual sourcing policy. If you guys encounter such cases, please revert to the formatting as currently prescribed in our policy page. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
- I also wish to clarify that it's not so much that the proposed new formatting was rejected by me, though I was an opponent to it, so much that it has not received approval from the staff for that matter. Wiki-wide changes to formatting need to go through proper procedures certifying consensus from the community or otherwise they can be haphazardly changed on a whim by anyone at anytime. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:19, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
- I hope so. But, follow who? Follow this policy for the flavor text? This policy for the flavor text has been rejected by Sol Pacificus. You can read the latest version of sourcing policy for the flavor text. The policy made by him has no slash in the reference. (If I still not make it clear, or I made a mistake, sorry about that.) --UJ112013 (talk) 15:23, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I get it now. However we've been using the "/" in all sources relating to the Historical Locations, I've just been following the same format is all. So there's no problem.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 14:42, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I did not make it clear. I used to mean the slash is not allowed in the reference. Example: the "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour / Mycenae: Habitations" should be "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour - Mycenae: Habitations" --UJ112013 (talk) 14:38, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
List of known British Assassins
It appears in the opening cutscene of Assassin's Creed: Syndicate. Here is a screenshot of it, showing Miko's name among others. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:22, December 7, 2019 (UTC)
- Neat, thanks. I thought it was like hidden in the database, thats's why I couldn't find it.V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 08:37, December 7, 2019 (UTC)
Perspective in writing
Hey Vilka, I think you're probably already aware of our policy to write from an in-universe perspective in our articles, but there's actually a finer aspect to it that, and from your writing in the "Iron" article, I think you may yet to have grasped if you pardon my saying. In your initial writing, the history section basically reads like a list of how each of the protagonists of the games encountered iron. "Kassandra acquired iron in varying amounts", "iron tomahawks were obtainable by Ratonhnhaké:ton", "an iron kukri was obtained by Jacob and Evie Frye", etc. From the perspective of the subject of iron, that these individuals could obtain iron is no more significant than any other individual from their lifetimes who could also obtain, produce, mine, sell, or use iron.
Writing from an in-universe perspective is more than just using the proper tense that one would if these were historical figures; it also means approaching the content in such a way that the perspective shouldn't seem to stem from a player's perspective. Why is it especially significant that this mercenary, legendary as she might be, collected iron ore throughout her travels when we can infer that it was common for any mercenary and many merchants and artisans to also collect iron? As a general rule, usually when an article is written with the line "[this item] was obtainable by [this protagonist]" it is out-of-universe writing and should be rewritten. "Was obtainable" just comes across especially like gameplay because in the real-world, we don't normally note what was or was not obtainable by a specific individual; we might say that that item was sold in markets in their time period instead.
Also as an aside, unless it's absolutely necessary in the context, please try to avoid wording like "Medjay-turned-Hidden One". There were lots of cases similar to this in the past in this wiki like "Assassin-turned-Templar Shay" or "pirate-turned-Assassin Edward", and honestly, it just makes for awkward writing and reading. Unless it's necessary to specify their transition between the two affiliations in the context, please try to avoid it. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 10:58, December 29, 2019 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I get it. I was just trying to follow how the Bronze page was made. But looking at that, it seems a little OOU and needs a revamp. I'll remember this, thanks for the heads up.V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 12:47, December 29, 2019 (UTC)
Social media templates
Vilka, I appreciate you taking the initiative to make citation templates for Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, but your organization for the template pages needs some clean-up. Moreover I think you based the format of these templates off of the IMDB template, but I would also have felt more comfortable had you discussed with staff or at the very least other members of the community the citation style that should be used. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 09:30, January 5, 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did ask DarkFeather and he gave me the go-ahead. What do you want me to do then?V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 09:34, January 5, 2020 (UTC)
- Nevermind, it is I who should apologize. I misread your templates (several times in fact) and thought they were more problematic than they actually were. Everything is fine, aside from just some small clean-up in the organization which I could have handled without starting a topic on your talk page. Pardon me for concerning you. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 09:38, January 5, 2020 (UTC)
Backup links
Hi! Can I use archive.today to backup posts on social media? There are some issues that happen causing I can't use the Internet Archive to back up posts on social media. --UJ112013 (talk) 10:26, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, I usually use Wayback Machine, can archive Facebook links with that but not twitter. With twitter a screenshot will suffice, unless archive.today can save twitter posts I'm not sure. I personally don't know anything about it and only tend to use Wayback. If archive.today can save twitter posts let me know :) V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 14:19, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
- It can. I have used this site to archive some Twitter posts, like this one. And there are some Wikipedia editors use it to archive pages as references. --UJ112013 (talk) 14:59, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
AC: valhalla dlc page
Hi, sry for overritting Odyssey dlc page with Valhalla content instead of Valhalla. I had been creating Valhalla one ands and passted it accidently to Odyssey one, but i relealised it too, and reverted edit few seconds before you edit, but still thx for remainding me that i edited wrong article :) --Kulurak (talk) 15:40, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
- All g, you beat me by a second XD V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 15:43, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
Behind the scenes
When you edit the heading can you make sure only the first word is capitalized? "scenes" should remain lowercase. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 05:32, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, my bad. thanks for the heads up. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 07:31, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
Proto-Assassins & Proto-Templars
Hey, I just opened up a discussion on our usage of the terms "proto-Assassin" and "proto-Templar". It's a long read, but I think is very important for us to clear this up because our wiki has been rather inconsistent about it, and we could cause some serious problems with it down the line. If you had the time, could you offer your input on it? Thanks. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:54, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

