User talk:Vetinari

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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. Master Sima Yi (talk) 23:32, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Lavoisier

Hey Vetinari,

Did you play the "Chemical Revolution" DLC by any chance? If so, I'd like to ask you for a favour. I've tried to activate the content myself but it doesn't work for some reason - can you transcribe the database entries for Lavoisier and his wife for me? I'd really appreciate it, cause I haven't found them online anywhere.

Thanks for reading, have a nice day :) Crook ^{The Constantine District} 16:55, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed movie

Hi my name is crazybob and i owned a new ubisoft wiki called Ubisoft motion pictures wiki and i need some volunteers to help me out with the assassin's creed movie coming out in 2016. CB2014 19:55, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Movie Novelization Special Edition

Hey Vetinari,

From your recent edits on the Movie novelization article, can I conclude that you have the Special Edition? I was wondering if there was anything of interest in there that could be added to the wiki (I myself only have the plain paperback lol). Since there's apparently concept art, you could totally upload that or something. Again, this is all assuming you actually have the Special Edition, so uh, get back to me on that? :p Crook ^{The Constantine District} 22:38, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Abstergo Madrid

Hey Vetinari,
I put the Delete template on the page because Jasca already stated here that the Abstergo Foundation Rehab Ctr *is* Abstergo Madrid. I assume(??) the longer name is the official public title, while the shorter one is for the CEO, Board of Directors, etc. to quickly differentiate between the Abstergo's global branches, but I'm just guessing on that. Anyway, thought I'd let you know my reasoning - Darman (talk) 01:00, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

Thought it might happen but it seems to me that the rehab centre is part of the Abstergo Madrid building rather than Abstergo Madrid being another name for Abstergo Foundation. Though I don't think it's clear anymore whether or not Abstergo Foundation is a company in and of itself or a specific medical centre within Madrid. As far as I know Jasca is interpreting the same info I am rather than there being official word somewhere. Plus I would argue merge into Abstergo Madrid instead of outright deletion. ;) Vetinari^{(Appointment)} 01:14, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

Or I should recheck the novel, eep. Vetinari^{(Appointment)}

"Abstergo facility in Madrid". Vetinari^{(Appointment)} 01:22, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

There's a Special Edition??? *sigh* Of course. Would've liked to have known earlier, but you say I'm not missing much. According to the O.E.D., foundations are separate from an industry/ company. In short, they raise money while the parent company uses it for products, research, etc, so that's one issue resolved. Thus, it isn't too far to suppose the Rehab Center is one of the Foundation's many possible assets. Whether Abstergo has a branch and the Fdn in Madrid or if the Fdn is Madrid is the issue, and here I still think we should hedge our bets: better to have to write the page later if/when more info comes than confuse readers (AC and non-AC alike) with details based on unclear descriptions. - Darman (talk) 02:05, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

AWBs

I've responded to your message on my talk page. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:00, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

Merge Proposals

Hello! I just opened up a discussion on our open merge proposals. It's quite long, but if we discuss it we can close them (especially because there are some from 2014 still unsolved :o)

If you have the time, could you offer some input? Thank you a lot. - Soranin (talk) 22:27, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia as a source

Hello, I saw your edit summary on Njörðr, and I wanted to explain why our wiki sometimes cites to Wikipedia and why it is not always viable to relegate information not given in an Assassin's Creed source to the behind the scenes section.

We have had a long history of wrestling with this problem where being absolutely, unrelentingly strict about citing only to Assassin's Creed sources can actually produce awkward gaps in the writing or otherwise drastically stunt the flow. This is because Assassin's Creed is a work of historical fiction based on the real-world such that some basic information about subjects are not always explicitly stated by Ubisoft, who may assume that it is already common knowledge or that that bits of that background context can be searched up by players on their own. Therefore, our wiki has come to permit taking information from external sources to a limited extent.

Of course, this alone does not explain why we would cite to Wikipedia which is known to not be authoritative. There are two reasons for this. First, editors often do not have immediate access to more authoritative sources but need to work efficiently.

Second, there is a misconception about the purpose of citation. While it is always better to cite to more authoritative sources and citing to a less credible one damages one's credibility, the practice of sourcing is ultimately based in the principle of transparency. The fact of the matter is that people often do not take information from the best sources, but they will hide that fact by refusing to cite at all! The real purpose of citation is to be open and honest about where one has taken their information even if it is a bad source. This way, people can better gauge and judge the credibility of the information you are providing. I know that you might think that it is better than not to take information from Wikipedia at all in the first place, but then we return to the first point about filling in gaps left by Assassin's Creed. Citing to Wikipedia is not ideal, but if an editor does happen to take information from Wikipedia because they did not bother consulting more authoritative sources, they are required to cite to Wikipedia so that we know. This is better than the previous practice of editors constantly taking from Wikipedia anyways but trying to hide that fact. ._.

All that having been said, it is possible to argue that the info about Njörðr being the father of the twins Freyr and Freyja is not so necessary that it needs to be mentioned if Assassin's Creed doesn't. (This is as opposed to other cases where the most significant info about the subject is not mentioned by Assassin's Creed).

I just thought that it was important to explain this ahead of time for future reference. Using Wikipedia as a source being folly is a common stigma, but it's more complicated than that. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)