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::Hey thanks for the rundown. I’m usually not big on editing as all I have is an iPad which makes formatting a pain. I was just surprised that the page hadn't been created yet so I just hoped to get the ball rolling on this one in hopes a better Wikia editor might pick it up. I’m also curious on the validity of creating a page similar to the [[Hunt for the Nine]] or [[Liberation of Rome]] but about Bayek and Aya hunting the Snake. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 04:17, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
::Hey thanks for the rundown. I’m usually not big on editing as all I have is an iPad which makes formatting a pain. I was just surprised that the page hadn't been created yet so I just hoped to get the ball rolling on this one in hopes a better Wikia editor might pick it up. I’m also curious on the validity of creating a page similar to the [[Hunt for the Nine]] or [[Liberation of Rome]] but about Bayek and Aya hunting the Snake. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 04:17, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
:::That would be entirely valid, even encouraged. Technically, we should have articles on every major event in the series. However, these articles are normally among the largest of projects, so you might want to warm-up with smaller articles first just to have a little more experience. You're not required to do so though. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 04:21, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
:::That would be entirely valid, even encouraged. Technically, we should have articles on every major event in the series. However, these articles are normally among the largest of projects, so you might want to warm-up with smaller articles first just to have a little more experience. You're not required to do so though. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 04:21, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
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==The Shroud==
Hello Lacrossedeamon.
I'm here to ask you again about the shroud. Once, you told me that Jesus' and Jason's weren't the same one. But it seems that Syndicate says otherwise and it confuses me. (A lot).
Let me explain myself by giving you some important points:
1- In Syndicate we know that Abstergo had one shroud before the one the Templars got from the Buckingham Palace, and that shroud was the original Consus created long before. (And it had his consciousness stored inside of it).
2- That shroud (the original) is known as the Golden Fleece, because Consus (in one of his conversations with Álvaro Gramática) mentions Jason as a person who he had contact with. And Consus' consciousness is stored ONLY in the original shroud. (Although a magazine says that Consus can/could communicate telepathically with some individuals).
3- This is not official, but I think that the Assassin Intel in Syndicate adds the stories from Project Legacy because that's explaining the journey that Shroud #1 (let's call the original that way hehe) took before being sold to Abstergo. (It was sold, was it?)
4- Renato mentions that the shroud had the image of a tortured man on it. (A reference to the shroud of Turin) This could confirm that the shroud of Turin is fake, since Shroud #1 was stolen by the assassins. It could be Brutus' body, but he wasn't tortured... right? Why would the responsible ones for the lore make such a reference? Was it suppose to be Jesus'?
5- The Essential Guide mentions Jesus' shroud as ONE of many, and also said that it's not the same one that Jason used before.
It confuses me so much. Can you explain to me once more why Jason's shroud is not the one Jesus wore? 
Oh, and I read your fanfic about Jesus' story. We have some details in common hehehe.
Thanks in advance.
[[User:Cristophorus35|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35|talk]]) 06:49, March 9, 2018 (UTC)

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Format

Hey Lacrossedeamon, I want to thank you for your initiative in creating the article on Mirages, but there were several formatting errors in regards to that page:

  • Perspective
We take a lore-oriented approach here, and as a result, mainstream articles should be written as though you actually are living in the Assassin's Creed universe. This means that you should be writing from an in-universe perspective, rather than a gameplay one. A lot of the information on the page, while not explicitly referring to the game, were organized and listed out in such a specific way as to clearly suggest that it's coming from a gameplay point-of-view. For example "Known Mirages" implies that there is an audience that this list is using as a referential point—known to whom? Known to players. But from an in-universe perspective, players of the game doesn't exist. Instead, you should integrate that information into the article as just what mirages can manifest as without implying the observers of this are obviously players.
  • Tense
Because we write from an in-universe perspective, this means we treat people and things that existed historically in Assassin's Creed, such as Ezio Auditore, as having really existed historically. This is why we tend to write in the historical past tense. However, not everything from historical periods are long gone; some still exist in the present day in the Assassin's Creed world. Mirages is one of these things. Mirages, being a naturally occurring optical phenomenon, continue to exist in the present day and will continue to exist as long as this phenomenon can exist in the universe. As such, it was incorrect to write about mirages in the historical past tense rather than the present tense.
  • Introducing the subject of the article
As an extension of the first point, introducing the subject of the article from the very specific perspective of a main protagonist heavily implies that you're writing from a gameplay perspective. When you introduce subjects, the first line should always define exactly what it is. What exactly is a mirage? Refer to my correction as an example.

Anyways, I hope all our formatting standards don't come across as too overwhelming for you. You are not at fault because we have not had our layout guide and manual of style written out yet, and in fact, several other new editors such as yourself have been making similar errors. So don't worry. You are free to try to add back information to the page and even expand on it; just make sure to do your best to write from an in-universe perspective! Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:00, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the rundown. I’m usually not big on editing as all I have is an iPad which makes formatting a pain. I was just surprised that the page hadn't been created yet so I just hoped to get the ball rolling on this one in hopes a better Wikia editor might pick it up. I’m also curious on the validity of creating a page similar to the Hunt for the Nine or Liberation of Rome but about Bayek and Aya hunting the Snake. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:17, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
That would be entirely valid, even encouraged. Technically, we should have articles on every major event in the series. However, these articles are normally among the largest of projects, so you might want to warm-up with smaller articles first just to have a little more experience. You're not required to do so though. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:21, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

New message

The Shroud

Hello Lacrossedeamon.

I'm here to ask you again about the shroud. Once, you told me that Jesus' and Jason's weren't the same one. But it seems that Syndicate says otherwise and it confuses me. (A lot).

Let me explain myself by giving you some important points:

1- In Syndicate we know that Abstergo had one shroud before the one the Templars got from the Buckingham Palace, and that shroud was the original Consus created long before. (And it had his consciousness stored inside of it).

2- That shroud (the original) is known as the Golden Fleece, because Consus (in one of his conversations with Álvaro Gramática) mentions Jason as a person who he had contact with. And Consus' consciousness is stored ONLY in the original shroud. (Although a magazine says that Consus can/could communicate telepathically with some individuals).

3- This is not official, but I think that the Assassin Intel in Syndicate adds the stories from Project Legacy because that's explaining the journey that Shroud #1 (let's call the original that way hehe) took before being sold to Abstergo. (It was sold, was it?)

4- Renato mentions that the shroud had the image of a tortured man on it. (A reference to the shroud of Turin) This could confirm that the shroud of Turin is fake, since Shroud #1 was stolen by the assassins. It could be Brutus' body, but he wasn't tortured... right? Why would the responsible ones for the lore make such a reference? Was it suppose to be Jesus'?

5- The Essential Guide mentions Jesus' shroud as ONE of many, and also said that it's not the same one that Jason used before.

It confuses me so much. Can you explain to me once more why Jason's shroud is not the one Jesus wore? 

Oh, and I read your fanfic about Jesus' story. We have some details in common hehehe.

Thanks in advance.

Cristophorus35 (talk) 06:49, March 9, 2018 (UTC)