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My initial suggestion back in 2021, to be revised. | My initial suggestion back in 2021, to be revised. | ||
*Perikles' death – 429 BCE | |||
*Thessaly – 429 BCE—early 428 BCE (''Legacy of the First Blade'' chapter 1) | |||
*Reunion at Naxos – early 428 BCE | |||
•Thera, meeting with Pythagoras for the first time. | *•Thera, meeting with Pythagoras for the first time. | ||
*Crete and Kythera? if we can fit it | |||
*Return to Sparta – Summer 428 BCE rather than Autumn 428 BCE as in the novel | |||
*Olympics – Late Summer 428 BCE | |||
*Arkadia & Boeotia – Fall 428 BCE | |||
*Ousting of Pausanias – 427 BCE or 426 BCE?. But this means that there's quite a lot of gaps in this period. Alternatively we could have Arkadia in 427 BCE since it might make more sense for it to come last where they would have the proof in hand. | |||
*LotFD Chapter 2 – at this point there would be quite some time gaps before Pylos-Sphacteria, which in the novel were filled up by Kassandra simply hanging around training Testikles, which doesn't apply if we have the Olympics at the right date. | |||
*Battle of Pylos and Sphacteria – 425 BCE | |||
*Kassandra is marched with other POWs to Athens – Autumn 425 BCE | |||
*Kassandra in jail – until Summer 424 BCE or late 424 BCE, in the meantime which the Battle of Delium and capture of Amphipolis happens | |||
*Kassandra and co. sabotage Kleon's popularity in Athens – 423 BCE | |||
*Battle of Amphipolis – 422 BCE | |||
*Kassandra returns to Sparta – August 422 BCE | |||
*Kassandra kills Deimos – Late Autumn 422 BCE | |||
*Kassandra is given the Staff of Hermes from Pythagoras and Pythagoras dies – Spring 421 BCE | |||
*Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia & discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist – Summer 421 BCE | |||
===Nstav=== | ===Nstav=== | ||
Revision as of 22:02, 14 January 2023
Italicized dates are those derived by cross-checking the info from the source with one or more other sources.
| Event | Game | Novel | History | Cyfiero | Nstav | TiagoFF | Rebellion | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Birth of Kassandra | —— | 458 BCE or 457 BCE | —— | 458 BCE[1] | 458 BCE | —— | 7 years prior to exile (458 BCE)[2] | |
| Kassandra has lived 7 summers by winter 451 BCE[3] | ||||||||
| Birth of Alexios | 446 BCE or 445 BCE[4] | 452 BCE or 451 BCE[3] | —— | 451 BCE[5] | 451 BCE | —— | —— | |
| Myrinne gives the Spear of Leonidas to Kassandra | —— | 451 BCE[3] | —— | —— | —— | —— | —— | |
| Autumn, when Kassandra is "seven summers old"[6] | ||||||||
| Thrown off Mt. Taygetos | 17 years before reunion with Myrinne[7] (c. 445 BCE)[8] |
Winter 451 BCE[3] 23+ years before reunion with Myrinne[9] |
—— | 451 BCE[3][10] | 451 BCE[3] | 451 BCE[3] | When Kassandra is 7-years-old[2] | |
| Kassandra meets Phoibe | —— | 434 BCE | 433 BCE | —— | 433 BCE? | —— | —— | —— |
| 3 years before start of story[11] | ||||||||
| Beginning of the story | 431 BCE[12] | Early 431 BCE | Early 430 BCE[13] | 431 BCE[14] | 430 BCE | 431 BCE[12] | 431 BCE | —— |
| Spring, 20 years after winter 451 BCE[15] | ||||||||
| Kassandra kills the Cyclops & earns the Adrestia. | 431 BCE[12] | Late 431 BCE | Early 430 BCE | 431 BCE[14] | 431 BCE[14][16] | 431 BCE[12] | 431 BCE | —— |
| Spring, 20 years after winter 451 BCE[17][18] | ||||||||
| Hunt for the Wolf & Battle of Megaris | —— | 431 BCE | 430 BCE | Autumn 431 BCE[19] | 431 BCE[13] | 431 BCE[12] | 431 BCE | —— |
| Months[20] from Spring[15] to June,[21] same year of meeting Elpenor.[18] | ||||||||
| Oracle of Delphi & Cave of Gaia | —— | June 431 BCE | June 430 BCE | —— | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | —— |
| June,[21] same year of meeting Elpenor.[18] | ||||||||
| Adrestia sails to Thermopylae | —— | 431 BCE | 430 BCE | —— | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | —— |
| Summer[22] | ||||||||
| Kassandra is confronted by Deimos | —— | 431 BCE | 430 BCE | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | —— | —— |
| Summer, 1 hour after arriving in Thermopylae[23] | ||||||||
| Delphi | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | |
| Athens | —— | 431 BCE | 430 BCE | —— | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | 431 BCE | —— |
| Summer | ||||||||
Novel
Exact years are never given, only a sequence of seasons.
- Spring 431/430 BCE– Kephallonia (Peloponnesian War is known to have already started)
- Spring to Summer (at least 1 month) – Megaris
- June 431/430 BCE– Kirrha
- Summer 431/430 BCE– Delphi
- Summer 431/430 BCE– Thermopylae (after sailing all the way around Greece from Kirrha)
- Summer 431/430 BCE– Athens 1st time
- Summer 431/430 BCE– Argos
- Autumn 431/430 BCE– Korinth
- Winter 431/430 BCE – Kassandra scours the Cyclades but fails to find her mother (Xenia is cut from the book)
- Summer 430/429 BCE – return to Athens in the midst of the Plague, Perikles is already dying but gets assassinated.
1 year later...
- Summer 429/428 BCE – Kassandra reunites with Myrinne in Naxos
- Autumn 429/428 BCE – Return to Sparta
- Winter 429/428 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
- Spring (4 years since the war began) 428/427 BCE – Kassandra in Boeotia, Myrinne & Brasidas deal with Lagos in Arkadia
After Myrinne kills Lagos, only 6 Cultists remain, including Pausanias and Kleon but excluding Deimos and Aspasia.
- Spring or Summer 428/427 BCE – Pausanias is exposed as a Cultist and "killed" off-screen
- Autumn 428/427 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
- Winter 428/427 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
- Spring 427/426 BCE – Brasidas marches off to Pylos while Kassandra and Testikles sails to Elis
- Summer 427/426 BCE – Kassandra at the Olympics, Brasidas trapped on Sphacteria, Kassandra goes to rescue him upon being done with the Olympics
- Autumn 427/426 BCE – Kassandra and other Spartan POWs are transported across Greece to Athens
- Winter 427/426 BCE – Kassandra in jail
- Spring 426/425 BCE – Kassandra in jail
"As the seasons wore on, through heat and cold..." (It is not entirely certain that the following summer is in the same year.)
- Summer 426/425 BCE – Kassandra escapes
- Summer 426/425 BCE – Battle of Amphipolis
- August 426/425 BCE – Kassandra returns to Sparta
- Late autumn 426/425 BCE – Kassandra kills Deimos.
Myrinne only tells Kassandra to find Pythagoras after Deimos dies.
- Spring 425/424 BCE – Kassandra goes to Thera for the first time and meets Pythagoras
- Summer 425/424 BCE – Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia and discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist.
Events that are said to have happened while Kassandra was in jail: •Athens destroys Melos – historically occurred in 416 BCE, although Athens did raid Melos c. 426 BCE, they did not destroy its city as Kleon says they did •Athens defeats Aeginians •Athens conquered Kythera – historically 426 BCE •Battle of Delium – historically 424 BCE •Capture of Amphipolis by Spartans – historically 424–423 BCE •Thucydides was exiled for his failure to prevent the fall of Amphipolis to Sparta •Kassandra's crew kills 4 out of the last 5 Cultists (excluding Deimos and Aspasia, "last one" being Kleon) without her Of particular note is that both the game and the novel bring up the Mytilenean revolt, and Kleon plotting to get the Athenians to vote on massacring the Mytilenians as though this is just about to happen when Kassandra escapes from jail.
Historically, this occurred in 427 BCE, before the Battle of Pylos.
History
- 431 BCE – Beginning of the Peloponnesian War
- 430 BCE – Plague of Athens
- 429 BCE – Perikles perishes in the Plague of Athens
- 428 BCE - Olympics
- 427 BCE – Battle of Plataea
- 427 BCE – Athenians debate to vote on massacring Mytilenians
- 426 BCE – Athens raid Melos
- 426 BCE – Athens conquer Kythera
- 425 BCE – Battles of Pylos and Sphacteria
- 424 BCE – Battle of Delium
- 424-423 BCE – Sparta captures Amphipolis
- 422 BCE – Battle of Amphipolis, deaths of Kleon and Brasidas
- 416 BCE – Athens destroy Melos
Game
- 431 BCE – Start of the story
- Myrinne asks Kassandra to visit Pythagoras before returning to Sparta.
Game guide suggests an order o Keos > Argos > Korinth Game guide suggests an order of Arkadia > Boeotia > Elis
Cyfiero
My initial suggestion back in 2021, to be revised.
- Perikles' death – 429 BCE
- Thessaly – 429 BCE—early 428 BCE (Legacy of the First Blade chapter 1)
- Reunion at Naxos – early 428 BCE
- •Thera, meeting with Pythagoras for the first time.
- Crete and Kythera? if we can fit it
- Return to Sparta – Summer 428 BCE rather than Autumn 428 BCE as in the novel
- Olympics – Late Summer 428 BCE
- Arkadia & Boeotia – Fall 428 BCE
- Ousting of Pausanias – 427 BCE or 426 BCE?. But this means that there's quite a lot of gaps in this period. Alternatively we could have Arkadia in 427 BCE since it might make more sense for it to come last where they would have the proof in hand.
- LotFD Chapter 2 – at this point there would be quite some time gaps before Pylos-Sphacteria, which in the novel were filled up by Kassandra simply hanging around training Testikles, which doesn't apply if we have the Olympics at the right date.
- Battle of Pylos and Sphacteria – 425 BCE
- Kassandra is marched with other POWs to Athens – Autumn 425 BCE
- Kassandra in jail – until Summer 424 BCE or late 424 BCE, in the meantime which the Battle of Delium and capture of Amphipolis happens
- Kassandra and co. sabotage Kleon's popularity in Athens – 423 BCE
- Battle of Amphipolis – 422 BCE
- Kassandra returns to Sparta – August 422 BCE
- Kassandra kills Deimos – Late Autumn 422 BCE
- Kassandra is given the Staff of Hermes from Pythagoras and Pythagoras dies – Spring 421 BCE
- Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia & discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist – Summer 421 BCE
Nstav
Argued for Arkadia (spring) > Elis (summer) > Boeotia (autumn) based on the apparent seasons when you visit them in the game. I later pointed out that I cannot find evidence of Boeotia being set in the autumn when I revisited the location and that the Odyssey website describes Boeotia as summer.
Notes and references
- ↑ According to the novel, Kassandra has experienced 7 summers by winter 451 BCE. This can actually mean that she is 6-years-old rather than 7 when she is thrown off Mt. Taygetos if her first summer was her first year alive. However, Rebellion simply states she is 7-years-old during the event.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Assassin's Creed: Rebellion – Bio: Kassandra
According to her bio in Rebellion, Kassandra is 7-years-old when she and Alexios are thrown off Mt. Taygetos. No specific dates are given, but if we were to put this info with the novel's dating of the fall, she would have been born in 458 BCE. - ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Novel. Prologue, p. 1
- ↑ Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – A Mother's Prayers
According to the memory, Kassandra was reunited with her mother 17 years after being thrown off Mt. Taygetos with her brother. Alexios appears to be less than 1-year-old at the time of his fall. - ↑ If we use the game's dating of the fall off Mt. Taygetos, it would mean Alexios is only 17 years old when Kassandra reunites with her mother, but he already appears as a fully grown adult by this point, so the game's date must be wrong.
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 6, p. 117.
- ↑ Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – A Mother's Prayers
- ↑ If we use the year 428 BCE as the date of the reunion, going by Perikles' historical death in 429 BCE and the novel dating the reunion to a year after his death.
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 11, p. 223
- ↑ Using the game's dating of the event would mean Alexios is only 17 years old when Kassandra reunites with Myrinne on Naxos and even a few years younger when they meet in the Cave of Gaia, so the game's date has to be wrong.
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 1, p. 15
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – So It Begins
- ↑ 13.0 13.1 Based on novel's sequence of events and Perikles' historical death in 429 BCE. See "Start of story".
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 According to Wikipedia's article on Pericles, he led Athenian forces into Megara in autumn 431 BCE.
- ↑ 15.0 15.1 Novel. Chapter 1, p. 9
A date of 430 BCE is necessary to synchronize with Perikles' historical death in 429 BCE going by the novel's sequence of events. However, this sacrifices alignment with Perikles' historical invasion of the Megarid in 431 BCE. The Peloponnesian War is also described to have begun earlier in the year; historically, it began in 431 BCE. - ↑ I prefer this date to align with the starting date given in the game's opening scene and the year which Perikles historically led a force into the Megarid. A deciding reason, though, is that the novel's timeline breaks apart in the latter half, rendering it unreliable.
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 1, p. 9
- ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 Novel. Chapter 5, p. 91
- ↑ According to Wikipedia's article on Pericles, he led Athenian forces into Megara in autumn 431 BCE.
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 4, p. 82
On page 68, Kassandra is described as working for a month to earn the Spartan army's favour, but Nikolaos later says that she followed them for "months". - ↑ 21.0 21.1 Novel. Chapter 5, p. 88
- ↑ Novel. Chapter 6, p. 126.
The year is not specified, but context implies it is still within the same year as the visit to Delphi. - ↑ Novel. Chapter 6, p. 130.
In the novel, Deimos confronts Kassandra at Thermopyale, not on Andros. However, he deduces that she is heading toward Athens, which would mean that she had been sailing in southwardly direction when she anchored off Thermopylae.