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Revision as of 06:29, 31 May 2020
Racing vs. race
I just moved this to "race" because I thought the term should be more concise, and I think the title "racing" was just copied from Wikipedia's article title. However, while revising the article, I realized that Wikipedia's idea was probably that "race" refers to an instance of the activity while "racing" refers to the activity as a general concept or as an action of an individual. I think the two are synonymous enough that it doesn't matter which is the title though. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:00, May 30, 2020 (UTC)
- There is also the issue that while "race" as a word is ambiguous, "racing" is not. I myself thought it was about race as the categorization some people use, not about the competition. - Soranin (talk) 22:42, May 30, 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say have it as "Racing" its more concise. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 23:57, May 30, 2020 (UTC)
- The problems with those two points is that, for one, article titles should never be inflected for the sole sake of disambiguation like back in the day when people would pluralize one article title if it shares the same title as something else. For another, "race" would be more concise right? o.O" It's shorter and is the base dictionary form, without inflection. Would you guys still want this article at "racing" after reading my counter-points here? Are there any other reasons? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:06, May 31, 2020 (UTC)
- Why not change Freerunning to Freerun then? Its also shorter, freerun is also in the dictionary. and Wikipedia has Freerunning but doesnt have a page on Freerun. "Race" isnt just the competitive event, thats what "racing" would refer it. Race can used to classify species (Humans included). V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 04:13, May 31, 2020 (UTC)
- The reason why Freerunning isn't at "Freerun" is because titles should be nouns and "Freerun" is a verb. For the latter, as I said, article titles shouldn't be inflected (e.g. pluralized, made past tense, turned into a gerund, etc.) for the sole sake of disambiguating between two articles which share the same name. We also don't have a page on race in the human classification sense anyways. I'm guessing though that going back to what I said the first time, maybe a case can be made that a "race" refers only to an instance of an event and "racing" refers more broadly to the general activity, and so to move it to "racing" won't necessarily be out of disambiguation? Is too confusing? xD Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:19, May 31, 2020 (UTC)
- Why not change Freerunning to Freerun then? Its also shorter, freerun is also in the dictionary. and Wikipedia has Freerunning but doesnt have a page on Freerun. "Race" isnt just the competitive event, thats what "racing" would refer it. Race can used to classify species (Humans included). V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 04:13, May 31, 2020 (UTC)
- The problems with those two points is that, for one, article titles should never be inflected for the sole sake of disambiguation like back in the day when people would pluralize one article title if it shares the same title as something else. For another, "race" would be more concise right? o.O" It's shorter and is the base dictionary form, without inflection. Would you guys still want this article at "racing" after reading my counter-points here? Are there any other reasons? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:06, May 31, 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say have it as "Racing" its more concise. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 23:57, May 30, 2020 (UTC)