Talk:John of Montecorvino

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This is a direct citation of everything my copy of Ming Storm has on this person.

While Zhang Yong’s martial arts were intrinsically Buddhist, his own spirituality was yelikewen, a Christian faith painfully imported to China in the twenty-sixth year of the Yuan dynasty by the Jesuit Jean de Montecorvino and which had not been welcomed by the Nestorians, who had been present in the East since the Tang dynasty. The latter, who counted the descendants of Genghis Khan among their ranks, considered the yelikewens to be even more dangerous heretics than the Buddhists, and had quickly persecuted and exterminated them, before disappearing in their turn during the fall of the Yuans. Between his arrival in China and his death, Jean de Montecorvino been proclaimed bishop of Cambaluc – the old name for Beijing – and had been emulated in the highest spheres of power. His faith persisted over the generations, particularly among idealistic eunuchs like Zhang Yong, who claimed to be Templars with aspirations such as reviving the legendary order of holy knights. - Chapter 14

That's it. One paragraph, which does not have him as a member of the Templar Order. I have, however, heard this is not true of the Chinese version, but since no proof has been provided, I am cautious in believing it and would like to see both the chinese and french versions of this paragraph. - Soranin (talk) 16:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to Blue-castle over on discord, we've found that the French copy is consistent with the english version:

Mais entre son arrivée en Chine et sa mort, Jean de Montecorvino avait été proclamé évêque de Cambaluc - l'ancien nom de Pékin - et fait des émules dans les hautes sphères du pouvoir. Sa foi perdura au fil des générations, notamment auprès d'eunuques idéologistes comme Zhang Yong, qui se revendiquait des Templiers [...].

Which translates to

But between his arrival in China and his death, John of Montecorvino had been proclaimed bishop of Cambaluc - the old name for Beijing - and made emulators in the upper echelons of power. His faith endured through the generations, particularly with ideological eunuchs like Zhang Yong, who claimed to be a Templar [...].

I am very much inclined to disagree with classifying this man as a Templar. - Soranin (talk) 16:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Seconded. The templar in the sense refers to Zhang Yong instead, not John. XOdeyssusx (talk) 23:21, 28 October 2021 (UTC)