Talk:Adéwalé

Scarification

Adewale's facial scars are a curious issue, imo... and knowing what I do of scarification, I can't agree with either the idea that the scars are self-inflicted or brought about by a life in slavery. 

Scarification was a common practice among various tribes; a permanent ID badge. As such, if dictated by tradition, by common practice, can scarring be considered self-inflicted? As Adewale's scarring is also darker coloured, it doesn't seem like an accidental memory of injury; sometimes ashes were introduced into the scarification wound to darken the scar.

Comparing what little we've seen of Adewale's scars with other scars, even from Black Flag, I think they're too... consistent, perhaps, to be from a fight. However, I do agree that maybe it's best to keep the detail out of the article until we learn more. But discussing them might not, hopefully, be amiss? Sadelyrate (siniath) 20:18, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Considering that Adewale is roughly around the same age that Edward is (at least from what I can tell), I doubt he would have had scarification done because that would have meant he'd received it at quite a young age. Scarring one's body on purpose seems more of an adult thing to do, if not a coming of age thing.

I do believe that tribal scarification would be more to do with body modification, since you can only label it as self-inflicted if you were the one to do it to yourself. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

What would to us be "quite a young age" is when people received their first scars. Adewale certainly seems to be well out of his puberty; that's one reason for a given community to mark a person. Ritual scarification was not something a person did to themselves, but something another did to them, as said person passed milestones of the community. Sadelyrate (siniath) 22:28, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

That may be true, but considering he's a former slave, it may be that he was taken from his parents and community at a young age, where he would then presumably be put to work by his master. Considering this, he may never have had any ritual scars, and they're just the result of punishment for attempted escape or failing a task. We won't really know until Black Flag is released. :S Slate Vesper (talk) 18:55, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Touché. It might be, though, that we'll learn more only after the DLC's release; whatever the case, I know I'll be looking forward to Adewale's story... amongst other things. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 22:36, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Trinidad, really?

Last I checked, gameplay demos aren't canon. Whilst it may end up that Adewale hails from Trinidad in the final game, we can't actually say as much until it releases. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 08:14, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Name

I have proof to my rename: Adéwalé. This video. At time code, 4:59. Altaïr Skywalker 47 (talk) 14:37, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

DLC Release Date?

I know that there is going to be a DLC for Adewale called Freedom Cry, but when is the release date for the DLC?TwixBreak (talk) 20:32, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Release date hasn't been announced yet :) Crook ^{The Constantine District} 20:35, November 5, 2013 (UTC)\

Thank you! TwixBreak (talk) 23:02, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Picture

Could we change Adé's picture to this?

File:Adewale FreedomCry.png

Awesomekid120 (talk) 16:52, November 22, 2013 (UTC)Awesomekid120

No. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 16:54, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

While it's a much more detailed and high quality picture, the fact that the legs are cut-off is a no-go. If by any chance, you know where to find a complete version, I think you'll have more success :) For now though, we'll be using the one we have (Kain, a longer reply would have been polite :/) Crook ^{The Constantine District} 16:59, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't impolite, it was simple and to the point. Also, that image falls more under a concept art, rather than a rendered model. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 17:01, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Simple, to the point and frustrating, because it's just a slap in the face of the commenter. At least have the courtesy of explaining why the image isn't suitable. Also, the image seems more like a render to me, but whatever, I'm sure Ubisoft will make a render of Assassin Adé for the dlc. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 17:06, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

You're overreacting. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 17:07, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

This page has a pretty good render of Adéwalé, and several other characters: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1999213 Bovkaffe (talk) 11:44, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

I think our current image is alright, albeit rendered a bit sloppily. We could still use the render you found of Adéwalé in the gallery, but I don't really see the need to switch. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 12:00, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Adewale able to use Eagle Vision/Sense?

Not sure if he is descendant of First Civilization.

Or, the eagle vision usage is just for building a easy gameplay for players get used to. Sleeplust (talk) 14:22, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Or perhaps it's both? Slate Vesper (talk) 14:27, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Every person has the capability to use it, it's a matter of training and attunement of the senses to utilize it. Basically, Ubi waved it away with a story reason as to why people not descended from Desmond's line can use it during gameplay.--Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 14:39, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Updating from Freedom Cry

I have played through and done everything I will be in the process of updating his article. --Revan's Exile (talk) 08:14, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

If so, please do try to keep your edits to a minimum; best not to clog up the RA feed. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 08:17, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

And take the MoS and sourcing policy into consideration. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 09:54, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

I know that it starts in 1735 and the final mission takes place in 1737, but I have no idea what years the rest of the missions took place in. Until I read that De Fayet died in 1737 I thought it was still 1735. --Revan's Exile (talk) 10:35, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm in the process of tweaking your text, somewhat. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 10:38, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Done. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:26, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

In official descriptions in game it specifically uses Gouverneur not Governor. Doesn't really matter to me. --Revan's Exile (talk) 12:08, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

"Gouverneur" is "Governor" in French. This Wiki uses English, not French. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:12, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Assassins

The page states that Edward first visited the assassins in 1717, but it was definitely in 1716--188.180.174.234 21:43, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Just checked, and you're right: This Old Cove happens in March 1716, and he goes to Tulum a couple weeks later. Nice catch. -Molotov.cockroach (talk) 22:42, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Category

I'm just a wiki contributor, so could someone please add Adéwalé to the "Quartermasters" category?

Please sign your posts by typing --~~~~ there is also a handy little button above that you can click on that has a hand written signature image on it. Also the Quartermasters category is already added before you posted asking us to do it. --Revan's Exile (talk) 23:44, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't which was why the anon asked for it to be added. And it has. Slate Vesper (talk) 23:47, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Picture.

Why hasn't the main picture been updated to this one? It is a more recent photo of Adéwalé. Roger Murtaugh (talk) 23:45, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's a sub-standard render hackjob I had to procure, until I have the means to properly render Ade's actual model from Freedom Cry. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 00:26, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I'd prefer to use his current render because we see more of him as a quartermaster, not to mention that Freedom Cry is originally DLC content. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:43, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Freedom Cry Trailer

Has anyone seen the trailer for Freedom Cry? And if so, what bearing would it have on the article? The in-game database says he escaped during the plantation raid, while the trailer suggests that he killed an overseer and fled at a young age, later escaping Trinidad. 

I know that trailers are often not considered canon, per se, but I was just curious. MasterKenway (talk) 14:26, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Brand

So, Ade's got the "FM" brand on his chest, anyone got some information on that one? I've searched for explanation without success. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 21:23, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

I found some people discussing this, and the consensus seems to be that those are the initials of his old slave master, since it was the practice at the time to brand slaves so their masters were identifiable. -Molotov.cockroach (talk) 18:40, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Commas

The simple, and only relevant, fact of the matter is that it is grammatically correct to use a comma in those situations, and the idea they we should not include them because it's "established" or "standard" is ridiculous. If we stuck with what was "established", we would never have developed a Sourcing policy, nor a Manual of Style, or many other practices that we now use.

I'm not going to open a vote on such a petty matter, either. I would also like to point out, before this argument is inevitably brought up, that just because every other article doesn't use commas doesn't make it any less incorrect. If every single edit that goes against the standard is reverted, of course no other article will be improved. So unless anybody can present a sufficient argument as to why we're not using commas where they should be used, I see no reason why the edit has to be reverted. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:09, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

To me, it does not matter whether or not we use commas, but what Jasca says here is truth. Pay some attention to it, please. The only things that are 'established' are in the rules and policies. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 14:14, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

There was this one vote ages ago to remove punctuation from the image captions altogether. I believe the reasoning was along the lines of "these are not actual, proper sentences." or somesuch. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 14:16, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, someone keeps deleting the old pages that contain the votes, so I cannot find the page itself, but if I remember correctly (since I'm pretty sure I was the one who put that vote forward), it only covered full stops, since you only have a full stop at the end of a sentence. That doesn't mean we should be negating every single piece of punctuation in an image caption. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 16:17, July 14, 2014 (UTC)