Talk:Medusa

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Merge

I, for one, agree with the merge proposal. On the other hand, though, 'Medusa' is as much a unique character in the mythology as, say, Ligeia. Sadelyrate (siniath) 11:19, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

We are trying to determine if Medusa was just a previous holder of the Prize and thus earlier incarnation of the Writhing Dread and Zero-elec asked Mel via twitter who in barely understandable English seems to confirm that Medusa was her own person that was corrupted by the artifact just as Ligeia was her own person corrupted by the artifact. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 12:26, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

The Tweet confirms that the Writhing Dread that Perseus defeated was an individual consumed by the artifact, just like Ligeia. It doesn't confirm that Medusa was the birth name of the individual who he defeated though. This means that the name Medusa is still likely one attributed to the beast, rather than the transumated host. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 13:24, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

The question asked though was in regards to Medusa being a specific person separate from the Writhing Dread; that was the whole reason Zero-Elec contacted Mel. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 13:33, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

That may have been what Zero-Elec meant to ask, but it wasn't what he actually did ask. Nor is it what Mel responded. He asked if Medusa, the creature killed by Perseus, was an individual taken over by the artifact (which we already knew to be the case), not if that name "Medusa" was the name of the human taken over. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:08, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

Okay then we need someone to go onto that thread and ask for further clarification then because she didn’t say Medusa = Writhing Dread either. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 14:17, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

Didn't we also already say that another name of the creature as confirmed by Odyssey is—true to Greek mythology—gorgon? We already discussed this entirely a few weeks before. Even if it is not confirmed that Medusa is the name of the individual who was killed by Perseus after transforming into a gorgon, the fact that this is actually the case in original Greek mythology means that the safer option is that the burden of proof should be on the name Medusa being another name for gorgon. As I've already mentioned previously, there is a wide prevailing misconception that Medusa in Greek mythology is the name of a monster rather than a specific individual who was one of three of those monsters known. The actual name of gorgon is not as well known and so it is highly probable, even expected, of Ubisoft to use the name Medusa for marketing reasons. Hence, this use of the name for the Writhing Dead outside of the actual in-game content should not be treated as hard proof that Writhing Deads were also called Medusas. The burden of proof falls squarely on this, not on demonstrating that Medusa is the name of an individual who transformed into a gorgon. Absent proof of the latter, we can leave it ambiguous, but it would not be a good idea to assume that Medusa = Writhing Dead without very solid proof because it convolutes the lore's relation with the myth by contradicting it. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 19:39, November 12, 2018 (UTC)