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Hello Dylan,<br>Welcome to the Assassin's Creed Wiki. I was watching the Recent Changes feed and saw you starred out the slur on Mani Mondragón's page. However, this is taken verbatim from Chapter 21 of the 2016 young adult novel ''Assassin's Creed: Last Descendants'', which the paragraph section is sourced to. I believe this is a false positive, as the site does not censor out curses from the many games' directly transcribed subtitles, whether they are written in English, Italian, or otherwise. I have appealed this to the | Hello Dylan,<br>Welcome to the Assassin's Creed Wiki. I was watching the Recent Changes feed and saw you starred out the slur on Mani Mondragón's page. However, this is taken verbatim from Chapter 21 of the 2016 young adult novel ''Assassin's Creed: Last Descendants'', which the paragraph section is sourced to. I believe this is a false positive, as the site does not censor out curses from the many games' directly transcribed subtitles, whether they are written in English, Italian, or otherwise. I have appealed this to the [w:c:Soap|Soap Wiki]] but thought I would also inform you here as well. Regards, – [[User:Darman36|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:00, 7 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Hello Darman, while you are correct that the slur was {{wiki|Use–mention distinction|mentioned and not in use}}, I actually don't think we've ever had a discussion about whether our site is comfortable not censoring mentioned slurs. I think that mentioning profane words as they appear in quoted dialogue is normally fine, but slurs are a more severe category than your typical swear words, and if there are users who are uncomfortable about mentioning slurs, we should be considerate about that. As such, I do not see an issue with DToast's edit here or a need to appeal it. Notwithstanding this, I took a look at the page in question, and I don't think the prose necessarily needed to quote the exact slur, so I have edited it out entirely. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC) | :Hello Darman, while you are correct that the slur was {{wiki|Use–mention distinction|mentioned and not in use}}, I actually don't think we've ever had a discussion about whether our site is comfortable not censoring mentioned slurs. I think that mentioning profane words as they appear in quoted dialogue is normally fine, but slurs are a more severe category than your typical swear words, and if there are users who are uncomfortable about mentioning slurs, we should be considerate about that. As such, I do not see an issue with DToast's edit here or a need to appeal it. Notwithstanding this, I took a look at the page in question, and I don't think the prose necessarily needed to quote the exact slur, so I have edited it out entirely. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
::Adding my edit comments here since they pertain to the topic and could otherwise become hard to find: | ::Adding my edit comments here since they pertain to the topic and could otherwise become hard to find: | ||
::Censoring as "f*****" is silly (and a bit whitewashy) as it means and evokes the same as the non censored word, so it's better just to replace it as Cyfiero did but I do think it's important to mention the type of slur. And yes "redneck" is a slur but it's mainly applied to white people and along class lines rather than ethnic, gender, or sexuality so no one really cares. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 02:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC) | ::Censoring as "f*****" is silly (and a bit whitewashy) as it means and evokes the same as the non censored word, so it's better just to replace it as Cyfiero did but I do think it's important to mention the type of slur. And yes "redneck" is a slur but it's mainly applied to white people and along class lines rather than ethnic, gender, or sexuality so no one really cares. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 02:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Mani Mondragón[edit source]
Hello Dylan,
Welcome to the Assassin's Creed Wiki. I was watching the Recent Changes feed and saw you starred out the slur on Mani Mondragón's page. However, this is taken verbatim from Chapter 21 of the 2016 young adult novel Assassin's Creed: Last Descendants, which the paragraph section is sourced to. I believe this is a false positive, as the site does not censor out curses from the many games' directly transcribed subtitles, whether they are written in English, Italian, or otherwise. I have appealed this to the [w:c:Soap|Soap Wiki]] but thought I would also inform you here as well. Regards, – Darman (talk) 16:00, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Darman, while you are correct that the slur was mentioned and not in use, I actually don't think we've ever had a discussion about whether our site is comfortable not censoring mentioned slurs. I think that mentioning profane words as they appear in quoted dialogue is normally fine, but slurs are a more severe category than your typical swear words, and if there are users who are uncomfortable about mentioning slurs, we should be considerate about that. As such, I do not see an issue with DToast's edit here or a need to appeal it. Notwithstanding this, I took a look at the page in question, and I don't think the prose necessarily needed to quote the exact slur, so I have edited it out entirely. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 22:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Adding my edit comments here since they pertain to the topic and could otherwise become hard to find:
- Censoring as "f*****" is silly (and a bit whitewashy) as it means and evokes the same as the non censored word, so it's better just to replace it as Cyfiero did but I do think it's important to mention the type of slur. And yes "redneck" is a slur but it's mainly applied to white people and along class lines rather than ethnic, gender, or sexuality so no one really cares. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

