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Seals and keys

Just wondering, in the ACR commented walkthrough, the commentator mentions that Ezio is on his search for the keys of Altaïr in order to unlock the hidden library. Are the seals the keys (which I assume)? If so, is the library a metaphor for the memories or is the unknown artifact actually hidden in a library in Masyaf? StPerkele 13:49, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the seals and the keys are the same; no, the weapon isn't a metaphor, it's a physical object hidden in the Masyaf library. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 18:43, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! StPerkele 18:45, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Number of Seals

I was curious as to how many Seals there actually are. Every time a dev says "5 Seals" they also include "Ezio is hunting for..." We know there will be 4 in Constantinople and we assume the last one is in Cappadocia, but now I'm confused by the Gamescom demo. With the Seal Ezio collected from Leandros, that equals 6. Any thoughts?

Stormbeast 03:30, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the fifth was known to be in Templar hands, so now we know it was - specifically - in Leandros'. Ezio might have chased him through a number of locations. =GuardDog 04:39, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

So there are 3 Seals in Constantinople, the last one being moved to Cappadocia before Ezio can get ahold of it. Stormbeast 20:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

There are four seals, one in each district of Constantinople, and one was in Leandros' hands. There is no seal in Cappadocia. Killeras 18:38, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

During interview Alex Amancio said that there are five. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 19:02, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Possible Renaming

Should this page be renamed 'Masyaf Keys' or 'Keys of Masyaf'? Because that's how the game refers to them as. Stormbeast 18:15, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

We've seen them before :P

Look here: http://twitter.com/#!/DeeNuke/status/122686379988754432/photo/1

Old news. Sign your posts. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 16:57, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've seen them before, and in real life too! They're DVDs... 100,000 year old DVDs. --Gibbeynator 22:50, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

New Apple

The last bit of this article says that Ezio finds a new Apple in the library. Isn't that a seventh apple? 99.248.4.108 04:13, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

No, it is the same apple that has been seen and used in Masyaf before. 145.100.125.133 14:52, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

PoE?

Are these seals Pieces of Eden? If so, should we consider the possibility that each PoE has/had 6 duplicates? If not, what makes them different, per sé? 145.100.125.133 14:51, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Nothing is said to indicate the keys are Pieces of Eden. -Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 15:13, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

They use the tech. They were found, not made. They look the part. The apple directed to them. In it's most basest, PoEs are any tech of those who came before. I don't see: why not these. 145.100.125.133 19:58, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

The keys were made by TWCB, but not everything they created is a PoE. Nesty ^{Wanna talk?} 20:24, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

So you're saying that Minerva's headpiece is a PoE simply because it was fashioned by the First Civilisation? The glass-walled building seen in "The Truth" video is a PoE because it was built by the First Cizilisation? I doubt that somehow..... --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 13:52, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Article merge proposal

I propose merging the information from here with the relevant section in the Memory Seals article and subsequently deleting this one, since they both cover the same thing, the Seals are infact meant primary for reliving memories, rather than being simply keys to the library, and the other article would benefit from merging the info.

Yay

1. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 19:45, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Nay

1. I think the purpose of these particular Memory Seals are, regardless of any memory collection capabilities, to act as keys for Altair's library. Whilst I do not doubt Altair intentionally imprinted his memories upon each Key, the distinct difference in their purpose is enough to warrant separate articles. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:37, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
2. ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 15:17, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
3. Crimson Knight _Intercom 18:13, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

1. I also want to point out that we have set a precedent for separete articles already with Apples of Eden and Apple of Eden 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:37, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Five or Six

I've been reading this article and it bothers me a touch that the image of the final seal is shown (Altair's last memory) but it isn't counted as a key. I feel that despite it not being needed to open the library door it should be counted as a key. Hutchy01 (talk) 17:38, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

It wasn't a key, just another memory seal. --Alientraveller (talk) 17:43, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Altaïr recovered 6 Memory Seals and used 5 of them as the keys to the locks of his "library". Those used as the keys are the "Masyaf Keys", and the sixth remains a regular Memory Seal that Altaïr imprinted his last memory on to depict the location of the Apple he possessed. Slate Vesper (talk) 18:38, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Additional idea. The sixth seal could be counted even though it didn't open the door it did reveal the location of the apple which was the whole point of the door and library Hutchy01 (talk) 22:55, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

If it wasn't involved in unlocking the door, then it wasn't a key, and shouldn't be counted as one. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 23:05, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Minor conflict?

This page says that "The Assassins went on to hide them beneath the bookshop, within the Yerebatan Cistern." The Memory Seals page says "Ezio entrusted all six seals to the Ottoman Assassins, who hid them within the Yerebatan Cistern." But Ezio's page says "Ezio stored the Masyaf Keys in the chamber where he had found the first Key, underneath the bookshop." Not having read the novelization all three of these pages cite, I don't know if Ezio hid them or the Ottoman Assassins did, but it seems to me these three references should be brought into agreement. It might also be worth having this mentioned on the Yerebatan Cistern page, but I don't want to make that edit until the other question is addressed one way or the other. Morgan-wolf (talk) 10:29, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Per Chapter 80 of the Revelations novel: "The Assassin Brotherhood had paid Sofia a generous price for her bookshop, and under it, in the cistern Ezio had discovered, the five keys of Masyaf were walled up and sealed. Azize, though sad to see them go, was also overjoyed at her new profession." It doesn't outright say "The Assassin Brotherhood (not Ezio) walled up and sealed the Masyaf keys", but it can be inferred they did. LePhantomChick N (talk) 18:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)