Talk:El Impoluto

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Charge attack

"Successfully destroying El Impoluto rewards the player with the charge attack for the Jackdaw"

It isn't true. You get it, if you destroy all legendary ship, not only this.Vekerur (talk) 11:45, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

El Impoluto is one of the legendary ships, so strictly speaking, it is true. That said, I see the point you're trying to make. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:15, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

True, but the others page don't content this text, so I thought, I need only destroy this ship.Vekerur (talk) 12:24, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I remember using the charge attack against this ship, after a tutorial pop-up. Don't think it's even connected to destroying these four, because why would it be? I suspect it's part of Elite Naval Ram upgrade. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 12:39, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I had all upgrade, when I started destroy the legendary ships, and I got the special charge skill, when I destroyed the last legendary ship. (what is in the fog)Vekerur (talk) 12:49, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I've got 100% sync, and never noticed this. How does one activate this tactic?Jasonnorthrup (talk) 03:40, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

You aim the chase cannons and press forward. --Kainzorus Prime ⚜ ^{Walkie-talkie} 11:30, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Charge Attack Info: Tense

So I'm not sure if my meaning is being understood in regards to this line:
"Successfully destroying all legendary ships rewarded Edward's Jackdaw with El Impoluto's charge attack. When used, the Jackdaw's speed was temporarily increased in order to deliver devastating damage with the ram."

The information provided by this sentence concerns gameplay mechanics, not a canonical event or detail that Edward Kenway in-universe experienced, (nor a canonical event that the Abstergo researcher of Kenway experienced via the animus). Edward doesn't magically, instantly get "rewarded" with a charge attack for his ship upon destroying all legendary ships, that doesn't make logical sense. Rewarded by who? God? Heaven? The air? The way the sentence is written is in an OOU context, and therefore it is completely contradictory to the sentence to pursue a historical past tense for the sentence when the sentence itself is written from an OOU perspective. It is the player of the real-life game playing as Edward sailing the Jackdaw that gets "rewarded" not Edward Kenway the in-universe character himself. (That being said I think it's okay to keep it as "Edward" and "the player" but the tense is a greater issue).

If you truly desire to translate this into IU terms, then we would have to revise the sentence altogether. Something along the lines of "Once Edward destroyed all legendary ships, he obtained a charge attack .... " Sol Pacificus (talk) 22:41, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

I know I can be confusing with my way with explanation at times, so let me try to break it down:

Historical Past Tense vs. Literary Present Tense

• Our policy is to use the former when writing IU, the latter when writing OOU, this makes logical sense.
  

"Successfully destroying all legendary ships" = OOU. It is written in present tense.
"reward" = OOU. It can be said that the player of the game gets rewarded but not Edward or the Abstergo researcher. Why? Because it doesn't make sense to assume that Edward magically was rewarded (again by whom?) upon destroying these ships. The real-life player gets rewarded in the game for completing this task.
Since it is written from an OOU perspective, then it should be the literary present tense as is the convention because events in the game didn't happen historically or in the past, they happen whenever a player completes that event.

Problem with this:
"Successfully destroying all legendary ships rewarded Edward's Jackdaw with El Impoluto's charge attack. When used, the Jackdaw's speed was temporarily increased in order to deliver devastating damage with the ram."
It contradicts itself. The sentence starts off with the present tense then shifts to the past tense. It is as though the sentence is indecisive between IU or OOU. The sentence as written is from an OOU perspective (the most glaring being the usage of "reward"), to force it to "sound" IU only creates a problem.

Solution:
Choose OOU or IU
If OOU: "Successfully destroying all legendary ships rewards Edward's Jackdaw with El Impoluto's charge attack. When used, the Jackdaw's speed is temporarily increased in order to deliver devastating damage with the ram." ~ leaving the whole using "player" vs. "Edward" thing as inconsequential.
If IU, as you are keen about, then we must translate the entire sentence. We can't, like I said, change the tense to past tense in the hopes of merely disguising the fact that it is written in an OOU context. So if we choose to go your route and choose IU, it is acceptable as long as we translate it into IU fully.
"Once Edward successfully destroyed all the legendary ships, he obtained ...."

It would then probably be preferable to insert this point into the article itself rather than keep it in the trivia. Since if it's IU, then there's no point in treating it as "Behind the scenes" information right? I chose "obtain" for its ambiguity. A different term may be better as long as it's not "rewarded" because as explained above that would suggest an OOU context.

Hope this clears it up. Sol Pacificus (talk) 22:45, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

I don't mind "Once Edward destroyed all legendary ships, he obtained a charge attack." That being said, you didn't really need to have a whole analysis of the matter. The one line where you made the above suggestion was sufficient enough. Slate Vesper (talk) 22:52, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

I was going to proceed with the change but ultimately changed my mind, because the translation of the gameplay mechanic into in-universe terms is awkward. Since I have not yet defeated the legendary ships and will not be able to do so for quite some time as my friend is currently borrowing my copy of the game, I have little faith in my ability to translate it into in-universe terms with accuracy. Instead deferring to you, I fixed the tense confusion in the sentence while keeping it in the past tense overall. Sol Pacificus (talk) 04:00, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it should be an article stub anymore.Joker (talk) 11:49, May 14, 2014 (UTC)Joker0002710

Impossible turning circle

The page is a bit wrong when it says the EL Impoluto will only ram you once per charge and runaway for another.There are rare times she does an impossible turn, nearly lifting herself out of the water for another attempt to ram you and it's almost an on the spot turn too. BlackDragon666 (talk) 07:16, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

community challenges

Are the community challenges listed anywhere in the wiki?Jasonnorthrup (talk) 17:51, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

There's not much point, since they're not supported anymore. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 18:53, November 14, 2014 (UTC)