Talk:Mentor

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Yusuf Tazim

Why is Yusuf not in this?

Rotionpotion 01:11, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

It is rather complicated but Master Sima Yi gives a very concise, well formulated and valid reason in his recent blog. Link Here.

I hope this blog highlights explains any area that you may be unsure of. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ _{♣^HelpDesk♣} 01:17, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Why not have a seperate article for guild leaders who did not achieve mentor rank?IlMualim 18:21, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

• Have a look at the Assassin leader article the Wiki has now. Bella'Mia 05:34, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, he's not a mentor because the Ottoman assassin send aide to a wide range of countries? Ezio did that in brotherhood before he was a mentor, but that didn't make him mentor of say, France. Rotionpotion 19:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

If you're referring to Yusuf, he was never the Mentor of the Ottoman Assassins, only a Master Assassin. Please read some pages before asking questions that can be answered on the pages themselves, thanks. Nostalgia ^{Let's talk.} 19:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Newer/Revelations Ezio picture?

Since this page is locked for some silly reason, may I ask that the picture of Ezio from Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood be changed to this one, Ezio-revelations-database.png?

Revelations Ezio

Ezio wore the Brotherhood robes in his prime, and in the middle of his three games. He only wore the Revelations robes for 2 years. -- Master Sima Yi 08:29, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Quote

Since the page is locked, perhaps one of the administrators would care to add this quote to the article:

"The Mentor's role is to oversee and coordinate the actions of the Order in pursuit of harmony through free will."

―The Mentor

--Bella'Mia 05:34, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

William Miles ?

Why isn't William Miles listed in this ? I thought that leader of the Assassins = Mentor ? 79.179.136.203 17:45, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Read the page. A normal leader isn't the same as a Mentor. Unless he is stated to be a Mentor, which may not be the case seeing the circumstances under which the Assassin Order operates in modern times, it is speculative to add him to the page. -- Master Sima Yi 08:29, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Categories

We see Mentors in Assassin's Creed I & II. Shouldn't the catagories be added? Trever09 ^{A place for Chivalry | Blog} 10:57, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Connor

Should Connor be listed as a mentor because since Achilles peacefully passed away, Connor leads the assassins from now on. Jackalex13 (talk) 23:41, April 6, 2013 (UTC)Jackalex13

That alone doesn't really make him a Mentor; and it's speculation until it's explicitly stated that he was one. --Crimson Knight _Intercom 23:42, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Ah Tabai photo?

Photo of Ah Tabai? Sorry my english I´m spanish 84.76.236.214 13:18, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Pictures will be added as soon as the PC version comes out :) Crook ^{The Constantine District} 13:19, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Now you can add photo?

Machiavelli mentor?

According to AC: Memories, Machiavelli was mentor. But in Brotherhood, nor is said to be a mentor, or that it is not. Spanish assassin (talk) 19:56, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

AC: Memories is canon. Brotherhood does not say than Machiavelli no was a mentor. —unsigned comment by 84.76.236.214 (talk · contr)

My memory is a bit hazy on Brotherhood :s Can anybody tell us if there is anything in Brotherhood that explicitly confirms Machiavelli was not a Mentor? Cause if not, there's no reason to disregard the information from Memories.

To the person above me, please sign your posts. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 20:23, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Memories is meant to be unreliable as Abstergo have been altering history as they see fit. That doesn't rule out Niccolo becoming a Mentor later in life, but nothing in Brotherhood indicated he was one before he introduced the rank to Ezio. --Alientraveller (talk) 20:25, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

I'm no expert on Memories, but from what I've seen, the editing only seems to affect mission dialogue and such. Like, the missions are obviously edited, but the biographies of the cards seem accurate. Maybe? Crook ^{The Constantine District} 20:28, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe I'm wrong, but during Maria formal introduction into the Order when ezio his named mentor in AC:Brotherhood, didn't Machiavelli implicitly resigned from his position as de facto leader of the Assassins in favor of Ezio ? Maxattac (talk) 20:36, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Then, he is included or not? 84.76.236.214 21:04, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Unless someone comes with some clear proof that he wasn't, I suppose so? From what I remember, Niccolo was not really coordinating the Assassin Brotherhood though. He was mostly off undercover at the courts and such. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 21:22, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

The Brotherhood novel states Machiavelli not to be a Mentor, which is why he wasn't added to this page before. If I remember correctly, this discussion has come up before, and Machiavelli was removed back then as well. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 07:12, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

But AC Memories, it is said Explicitly That Machiavelli is a mentor. In Broterhood novel is not said, but not denied. Spanish assassin (talk) 09:46, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Nesty, do you happen to have a quote from the book? ^^; Crook ^{The Constantine District} 09:57, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Not without reading half the novel again, no. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 10:17, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

In the event that the book does state "Machiavelli was not a Mentor", then what do we do? Both the Brotherhood novel and AC: Memories are sidecontent at best, so which one trumps the other? Crook ^{The Constantine District} 10:31, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

The book doesn't say anything about Machiavelli being or not being given the rank Mentor, only his role as De facto Assassin Leader. The novel suggests that Machiavelli and Ezio held sway over different areas of the brotherhood from 1500 - 1503 to be considered leaders. Machiavelli being the de facto leader and Ezio being a leadership figure, with both being Master Assassins by 1500. In 1503, as we know, Machiavelli stepped aside, proclaiming Ezio the Assassin Leader and Mentor (As we know they ARE different ranks). So Considering nothing contradicts Memories. It should be considered that at some point post 1500 (most likely post 1503) Machiavelli gained the rank Mentor, nothing pre-memories goes against this or even mentions it, only his position as de facto leader. Lord Vespasian (talk) 18:35, September 1, 2014 (UTC)