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AC 1

Wouldn't Italy be in AC 1 at the era thing(sorry I don't know what it is called) Since Desmond was held at an Abstergo Labrotory in Italy23:16, July 3, 2011 (UTC)Parkour.Assassin

You do have a point. However, as we're given very little indication as to the location of the facility in the first game, and that Italy is never mentioned at all in-game, adding the AC1 eraicon makes little sense. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 23:36, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Point of view

As much as I like seeing articles being expanded. Currently, it focuses far to much on Ezio's journey, which is more than adequately covered in his own article. This article is about the country, and should be tailored as such. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 17:41, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Jasca, as you might have noticed, my apprentice template is still on the page, and I'm working on it. So there is no need to worry just yet. Nesty ^{Wanna talk?} 17:48, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know, you just had me slightly concerned as it was you who uploaded the information, and I wanted to get in there before you put too much effort into it. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 13:26, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but my point was to get the information in there first (I pretty much summarized the event pages), and then rewrite it to make it fit the Italy page. Still working on it, and it should be done within a few days now. Nesty ^{Wanna talk?} 16:39, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Formation of Hidden Ones

Sorry Jasca, but I think you don't very well explain what and what not be on this page. If we can't speak about the Assassination of Caesar and the Formation of Hidden, which clearly happens in Italy, why keep the things about the Order of the Ancients and Augustus emperor, it didn't relate to Italy after all. And why keep two sentence which explained the fact that Augustus created the empire? It's redundant. Every time I edited, I explained my point of view and every time I tried to reduce the informations not related to Italy. You never change your argumention even when i reduced information on Caesar and you reverted even informations and mistakes i corrected which weren't related to the Roman Era section. This isn't what i call very professional work. That you aren't ok with with why I wrote, ok, but how you argue that the assassination of the dictator of Italy not even worth a mention while the assassination of Caligula is mention in this page?Francesco75 (talk) 19:27, March 5, 2019 (UTC)

The reason why I removed the additional information about Caesar and the Hidden Ones is that it's not pertinent to the topic of the article, which is Italy (the country). Just because something happened in Italy doesn't mean it needs to be mentioned in an article about Italy; if that were the case, we would have to duplicate almost half of the Ezio article here too.

The bits that are important to the history of the country–that Caesar was a member of the Order of the Ancients, and that resultantly his son and the first emperor of the Roman Empire (an important part of Italian history) was also a member–were kept in place as it is the bare minimum that is required to cover the history of that period.

Finally, with regards to the founding of the Hidden Ones; that took place in Egypt, not Italy. The only reason Caligula is mentioned in the article is that he was assassinated by the Hidden Ones, as mentioned in Assassin's Creed II, a distinct and separate source to Assassin's Creed: Origins.

I hope that clarifies my position better. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:37, March 6, 2019 (UTC)

I speak about the Roman branch of the Hidden Ones, which was found in Italy, and if we don't speak about the protagonist group who killed the proto emperor in Italy, why mention that the same group killed one of his successor? It's not logic, and I could argue that the Assassination of Caesar is also important for history of Italy as he led to the rivality of Octavianus and M-Antonius. With the actual writting, we only know that Caesar died one day. And also it was never said that Octavius took the power with the Templars in AC2, it's was in the Hidden One DLC. Francesco75 (talk) 09:48, March 6, 2019 (UTC) 

Firstly, there's no such thing as a "proto emperor;" Caesar didn't govern an empire, he governed a republic. Secondly, you could argue that Caesar's assassination was important to the overall history of Italy, yes. Finally, I said that Caligula's assassination was mentioned in AC2, I said nothing about Augustus.

The sole reason the wiki exists is to efficiently disseminate information regarding AC lore, and we do that by ensuring that only the pertinent information is mentioned where necessary. What matters to the history of Italy is that Caesar was an Ancient, and so was his adopted son; the details of Caesar's death, however, are better suited to his own article. That's why it is linked to in this one. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:53, March 6, 2019 (UTC)