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I've completed the game and looked at this article for help. I was wrong. This only provides a few messages. The youtube video's are hard to understand soo... if any one can decode the messages and tell me I'll edit the page to include the rest of the messages--ThePieceOfEden 10:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC) I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly.

I added an explanation for each one on the page and added a few more messages. If you still don't understand (which is understandable), read this. CallofDuty4 Talk 20:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Did anyone notice the Nazca lines references? unsigned comment by Spoonodeath (talk · contr) 00:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The page Assassin's Creed 2 spoilers is being merged to this page already. -- D. Cello 23:54, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh my bad! ^_^ Spoonodeath 02:45, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wow Holy cheese (for lack of a better word)! The page looks great! ^_^ Spoonodeath 22:25, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

I've realized[edit source]

That the barcode is also a glyph in AC2 on the villa but this hasn't been mentioned. Auditor(e) 08:19, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

is all this a message[edit source]

Do the game designers know something??? what is going on I'm confused...........right back unsigned comment by 72.160.111.153 (talk · contr) 09:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Know something like what? And what would give off they would know something?AdminAuditor(e)Talk 10:36, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

French Revolution?[edit source]

Has anyone noticed at the end of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (Sequence 9 to be exact) during the session when Desmond's DNA activates the Apple of Eden; has anyone noticed the Phrygian Cap and the Masonic Eye as they seemingly correspond with one another? Of coarse, Shaun Hastings talked of both of them....the idea is that the next Asssassin's Creed game will possibly be located during the French Revolution.

Think about it; Assassins Creed almost always is themed around society and government radically changing.....The devs said it themselves..... unsigned comment by ShiningLegend (talk · contr) 03:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yonaguni reference[edit source]

I'm pretty sure this is going to be the setting for the garden of eden in assassins creed's universe. So we have already seen what it's going to/had looked like when watching "The Truth" :D unsigned comment by 92.23.140.110 (talk · contr) 00:35, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Eden is on Africa, Yonaguni is Japan. And sign your posts. -- D. Cello 02:24, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
Damn, forgot about dat mountain present in the video, it's been ages since I've watched it. Feel free to delete this discussion if you want lol. I still think yonaguni's going to play a big part in the games though 92.23.140.110 03:50, July 15, 2011 (UTC) a moron

Pentagram isn't a pentagram[edit source]

If it was only the 'star' it would be a pentagram. With the circles it's a pentacle, symbol of the Goddess and of the power of women. It also stands for the cycle of life and it's associated with the orbit of Venus. unsigned comment by MessAuthorFan (talk · contr) 15:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

The AC guide describes it as a pentagram, so that's what's going in the article. Please sign posts.Smoke3723 21:24, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

The mountains[edit source]

There is a chance they could be the black hills from the end of ACR. Worth a mention?

IRB2012 92.12.199.251 15:39, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Not really: the hills don't match the image as perfectly as the link provided in the text.Smoke3723 07:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

"I've fallen into the abyss and never returned" - it's speculative to some extent, but I don't think Subject 16 doesn't only refer to his personal tragedy of being captured and exploited by Abstergo with this sentence. Remember Al Mualim's final words? "I abide my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this was also a chasing at the wind, for in much wisdom is much grief. And he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." Note the negative evaluation of knowledge. When I read "Death in Venice" by Thomas Mann I stumbled upon a part near the end of the novella where the author cites the dialogue between Socrate and Phaedrus as written by Plato where Socrates states "[...], [knowledge] is the abyss." (with a decisive stressing on that statement in the context of the dialogue). Combining these aspects I find it plausible and somewhat probable that "abyss" in the initial statement, as written in the mural, is a reference to this. It just seems to fit into the overall mindset of the dialogues within AC1 way too well to be simple coincidence, in my opinion. 95.88.44.233 22:41, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Cryptic Messages in AC2[edit source]

In AC2, at least the PS3 version, the "Pyramid of Letters" and "Barcode & Date" cryptic messages are missing from the Abstergo lab. Dann494 (talk) 18:12, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Pentagram[edit source]

The Pentagram, also known as the Signum Salmonis historically was a Templar symbol and was a Christian symbol representing christ and god up until the purge of the Templar Order circa 1307. At that point it along with several other symbols were turned to represent evil in a means to purge the order as satanic worshippers. 

As far as this Venus Pentagram thing goes. This was an invention for that novel the Da Vinci Code. LancelotLoire (talk) 03:21, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Mountain Valley[edit source]

I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Thoughts? Sadelyrate (talk) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

True...maybe it was purposeful?Lost Fragment 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Desmond's Room[edit source]

I noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor was my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here. The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes. The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself. The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory. The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant. Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occurred just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so". unsigned comment by GHosTxShadoux (talk · contr) 14:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Page name[edit source]

This is an ongoing discussion.

Shouldn't this page be renamed? I don't believe any of the Ezio game manuals call Clay's doodles by this term, nor do characters refer to them as a proper noun. Do they even call them this? As I recall, it's all indirect mentions, like Desmond saying that Clay "repainted my room", etc. Darman (talk) 02:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)