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Rafiq

The Bureau leaders in Damascus and Acre are rafiqs and are not called by name. That is their position or rank within the organization and it is a title of respect. Not sure why someone listed Altaïr as a Bureau leader in Damascus ?? Is this some bit of information that is revealed somewhere in the game on X-Box or PS versions? It is not in the PC version. --Maskim xul 06:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

Checklist I can and will do all this myself but if someone wants to help:

1. A interior picture in-game Jerusalem or Damascus preferred. [Option 1] (Interior pictures of all the bureaus with the dai/rafiq visible)

1. An exterior shot of the whole building Damascus or Jerusalem preferred. [Option 1] (An exterior shot of both of the other bureaus added into a little gallery down bottom with the interior pictures in Option above)

Notes:#Try to allow yourself to get damaged then enter Eagle Vision and take the picture before you regain your health. #No HUD. #If someone decides to help please strike what you've done.

Auditor(e) 11:16, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Difference between Assassin Locations

What is the differance between an Assassins' Bereau, a Assassin den (as seen in AC Revelations) and Assassin Hideouts? Thanks 91jonno 21:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)91jonno

This is a wiki for a reason, but the difference is the Assassin's Burea's are from Assassins Creed whereas Assassin Den's are kinda like bigger and more known...Assassin bases almost and the Assassin Hideout is the modern day hideout in Assassins Creed II

AdminAuditor(e)^Talk 00:04, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Assassin Bureaus were used in the 12th century for Assassins to go to and get information on their targets and make themselves known to the rafiq that they were in the city. In Altair's case though, he was made to collect his own information.

Assassin Towers in Brotherhood were places that Ezio could go to in order to organize his recruits, and owning one would allow him to renovate shops and buy landmarks nearby, while also allowing him to gain an extra recruit.

Assassin Dens are just like Assassin Towers, except that they offer bomb ingredients and a bomb-crafting station for him to use, they could be retaken by Templars if the Assassins' Notoriety was full (now less focused on Ezio), and could have an Assassin placed in them to guard them, becoming permanently secure after Ezio and the Assassin take down a Templar Agent and they are promoted to Master Assassin.

Assassin Hideouts are the main base for the Assassins in a city, and with Ezio, they contained his armory and weapons, art gallery/library and fast travel with a tunnel entrance. Slate Vesper 00:37, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much 91jonno 19:03, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Renaming as bureau

As their will be many Hidden Ones bureau in Valhalla, I think it is better to call the page only bureau to regroup the Hidden Ones and Assassins.Francesco75 (talk) 09:29, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Or just make a separate page for Hidden One bureau. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 09:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

No because per our extensive discussion on the difference between Hidden Ones and Assassins, our wiki is treating them the same until further notice. Even if new lore is suggesting that they are distinct, for the sake of integrity, we would need another discussion to definitively separate them. Moreover, even if they were distinct but the Hidden Ones merged into or evolved into what came to be known as Assassins, that means the line blurs. In my opinion, it is entirely fine to then still call bureaus founded in the Hidden Ones era Assassin bureau since they could have been in continuous operation into the Assassin era. Finally, the title "Bureau" is too unspecific. Government agencies have bureaus. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

More than just a history section

I was working on a complete rewrite of this article a few years back when it had never been updated past the original Assassin's Creed. At the time, I was using new information from The Essential Guide, but then I no longer have either of its two editions on hand anymore. I am glad that Ficboy took the initiative to bring this article up-to-date as best and as expediently as he could, but this led to the removal of the "Functions" section. Rather than updating it, its content was moved to the "Third Crusade" subsection of "History".

This article needs more than just a history section. It needs at least the "Functions" section to explain in greater detail the difference between a bureau and a den, guild, and a cell. In particular, dens in Revelations functionally seem virtually identical to a bureau. Are there subtle differences? What about Assassin headquarters which are not bureau? In some eras, bureaus were sub-administrative units below the main headquarters; in other cases, a bureau may have acted as a main headquarter. This is all important information to clarify to readers. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Café in bureau article ?

This is an ongoing discussion.

Can we add the café of AC Unity in the bureau article or do we create their own page ? We can consider their work as bureaus as Arno get contract from the brotherhood there.Francesco75 (talk) 08:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I would support adding Café Théâtre as a bureau. I don't think a separate page should be made for it. But let's hear what others think first. Related, what about the Thieves' Guild of Venice? Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 17:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I feel like the Social Clubs throughout the various districts fill the bureau role better than the Cafe. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Is it because missions are tasked from the social clubs instead? Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

It's more that they are actually spread out. Normally we see a Brotherhood operating over a larger area so bureaus being spread out usually means 1 per city. But in games like Mirage (and even Brotherhood and Revelations if you count the Dens and Towers) they are per district. The Cafe seems to act more like a super bureau or at least an intermediary or public front. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 02:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

AC shadows

This is an ongoing discussion.

This game introduces kakurega, the parkour paths (some with outposts), and kofun (at least two) as assassin related locations but do any of them count as bureaus? The issue with this are the kakurega aren't really staffed while the outposts within the paths and kofuns are defunct and thus hard to tell exactly how they operated. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 21:31, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

The game sorta presents kakurega as "safehouses" yeah? I'd say they're the closest thing to bureaus. VilkaIsBack (talk) 06:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

I agree OOU they are analogous but IU they kinda perform a different function, and what about the kofun (for the ones applicable) or outposts at the end of some of the hidden trails? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:25, 23 March 2025 (UTC)