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Russian associations

It explains all things know so far about how the assassins are connected to Russia.Aquila29 14:10, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Your point being? Should we also make articles with every country that has some connection to AC? I mean Italy and Israel have far more connection to AC than Russia by a long shot. Why are there no articles about the connection with the assassins and those countries? Exactly! -- Altaïr 17:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

My point being, It's alot easier for people to understand why the new comic is set in russia and see what connections it has in the series so far because its all on the one page. The page is called Russian associations not russia because the page is to do with the assoiations not the country its self. Thanks. Aquila29 15:19, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

We'll put those points in articles of the comic series itself and in the articles of the characters. It doesn't need a separate article. -- Altaïr 18:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Nice one will do.Thanks.Aquila29 20:07, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Armor - Don't Delete it!!!

Altair may not, to the literal extent, have armor, but he does have is multiple tactics and such that 'protect' you, and is that not what armor does? He has his 'social stealth', his inhuman acrobatic abilites, and allies that help him (Vigilantes and Scholars)...I say, don't delete it, jsut say that no LITERAL armor exists, but he does have a multitude of other 'armors' on his side. —unsigned comment by Drevas Oril (talk · contr)

Interesting. Wouldn't a better name be more fitting, though? "Armor" suggests metal plates, or chain mail, not free-running and blending. Someone once suggested an "Abilities" page, to include those and upgrades that Altair gains. Don't be afraid to go out there and do it- by all means, feel free to start something. Cymbalta 18:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

imo, armor has pretty strongly suggests some sort of physical defense, and the water absorbing cloth that Altair wears doesn't seem to qualify. At best I think the armor topic should be a note that no armor exists (so that no new armor pages crop up), then a quick discussion of his other defenses and links to 'em. Personally, I'd rather see it deleted or renamed to defenses or somesuch. --tarkisflux 19:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC) UPDATED I added to the armor page along the lines talked about here. Still not sure it's worth keeping, but I think it's better than it was. --TarkisFlux 20:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Definitely better then it was. Another strong edit like that, and there won't be a reason to keep the {{delete}} tag. Cymbalta 20:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I added some more to the armor page, mostly detailing the armor that various soldiers in different cities wear. figure there's enough there now to pull the {{stub}} and {{delete}} tags, so i did :-). --TarkisFlux 01:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Again, it seems we could compromise here. Keep the page and rename it as Tarkis Flux suggests to "Abilities" or "Defenses". The word "armor" has a wide variety of implications, as Drevas Oril points out. People have "emotional armor" as well, also known as "defense mechanisms" but that doesn't make them metallic or machines...simply machine-like in their employment: automatic. Altair's various defense mechanisms are ingrained in him, because of his training and experience - like breathing. Automatic. May I point out that his very large and metal decorated knife belt and greaves are good for deflecting arrows and lessening the effect of glancing sword blows, but most of those archers can't shoot worth a damn anyway! But yes, most of the public thinks of metal helmets, chestplates, greaves (arm and leg), and chain mail when confronted with the word "armor". --Maskim xul 23:34, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Prince of Persia

I think the article should be kept but changed (I am willing to do these changes, if somone else agrees) I think the page should have a brief two-three sentance description of hte series, a list of the games (no information on the games just the list) and any similarities worht mentioning between prince of persia and assassins creed can be added to the page, at the bottom we can have an exteranl links and link to the prince of persia wikia (if there is one) and wikipedia's article on prince of persia. Hunterj|My talkThis is my temporary sig|

I don't think it should be kept. This is the Assassins creed wiki, not the prince of Persia wiki. If we don't delete, users could think they could ad any game and defend it with arguments like: 'King Richard appears in it or There is also an assassin in...' - Kai - Talk 09:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

It should be kept. Only because it is Ubisoft. AC-42 19:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Can we compromise here? Taking Hunterj's suggestions and AC-42's, keep it but pare it down and put a link to a PoP wiki (if there is one). Just mention where the two games cross paths and make it clear that this is the Assassin's Creed wiki...because Waterkai has a valid point. --Maskim xul 23:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete because it is the wrong wiki. MacMed 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete. As said, this is the Assassin's Creed Wiki, not the Ubisoft Wiki. If Prince of Persia is here, makes just as much sense to have a Rayman article. XPeaceChill 14:50, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Delete. The two above me are correct. 68.48.225.39 19:22, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

DELETE the 3 above me are right

Lucan07 21:04, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lucan07 if im not logged in

Delete. This is the Assassin's Creed Wiki, having pages with other games is completely irrelevant. Alpha Six 03:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Altier

Altier Wtf? AC-42 17:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Ezio Auditore de Firenze

Real article: Ezio Auditore de Firenze AC-42 20:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know that the page itself should be deleted, but perhaps heavily edited. And "Renascientist" or whatever it was??? Yeah. It's "Renaissance". All that aside, it's nice to have a picture of Ezio. I, for one, am happy to see how they incorporated Altair's gear into the 15th century Florentine style. Nice threads. He does deserve a place here - don't you think? --Maskim xul 23:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

yeah, but the artice he's pointing at is a du^licate, but just misspelled. - Kai - Talk 11:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Ps4

Not related in any way to Assassin's Creed. MacMed 20:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed Assassins

This category is being chosen over simply "Category: Assassins" because why exactly? It's REDUNDANT. If they're on this website of course they're assassins from Assassin's Creed. Why put that in there? The current "Assassins" one should be deleted and this new one taking its place should have its name changed to simply "Assassins." Oddsock 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

First of all, please sign in your post with Four tildes. ^^

Second, why I put it that way? because we're anticipating AC2, with different Assassins of course. So, the plan is to make sub-categories "Assassin's Creed Assassins" and "Assassin's Creed II Assassins" to differentiate the characters and avoid confusion. I'm trying to make the categorizing system as clear as possible. Oh, and I haven't done revamping it btw~ - SilverSummoner^TaLk 15:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the signature thing, I'm still new to using Wiki stuff. I understand the differentiation, but I see no real need for it. Every Assassin, be they in AC1 or AC2, will be revealed as being in either game in their individual articles. If anyone's looking up any assassins, they should be able to recognize them easily by name and find them in that single database. Just saying, I think two separate ones really aren't necessary. Oddsock 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Assassins here not only refer to Ezio or Altair, but also other minor assassins character such as Malik, Kadar, Al Mualim, and even Rafiq.

If anyone's looking up any assassins, they should be able to recognize them easily by name and find them in that single database.

What if that "anyone" is someone who doesn't know anything at all bout Assassin's Creed?

If you're still new to wiki, that means you still new to MediaWiki and all wiki stuff? - SilverSummoner^TaLk 03:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to editing Wiki and such, but of course I've used Wiki sources before. "What if that "anyone" is someone who doesn't know anything at all bout Assassin's Creed?" Thanks for teaching me how to quote, I didn't know the quotes would make something italicized (despite the nice box next to this text window). Now about the question: There are only so many assassins, and if anyone is playing a game and looking up names, they should recognize those names from within the game they are playing. If not, it's likely AC2 Assassin names will be European and AC1's will be Arabic. I am also thinking of my own experience of browsing Wikis for fun, and it's been no problem to me to surf databases of characters or weapons or whatever without having them all divided up into smaller, more precise databases based on which game they're in or any other kind of differentiating factors (I use Fallout 3 Wiki as my primary example). I understand the want to separate characters, but honestly I don't think it's necessary. Oddsock 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Well then.. what;s your suggestion actually? And I still not very clear of the advantage of having all of the pages squeezed into Category:Assassins. Mind to explain? and what is the disadvantage of the current categorizing system so that it makes you feel that it should be changed? - SilverSummoner^TaLk 13:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

My suggestion is, as you just stated, to keep them all in one category or list. What's the advantage? Simplification. What's the disadvantage to two separate categories? Complication. Nobody's getting squeezed, there aren't hundreds or barely even tens of Assassins in the current category. I can't imagine AC2 will add many more. Why differentiate and make someone look harder than they have to? I have a feeling we're at an impasse ("no, we are at an end") and more opinions on the matter are required to make a decision. If the majority thinks that two separate databases is better, then fine, but I'm just sticking with what I think is the right, not-overly-complicated thing to do. Oddsock 20:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Complicated? What's so complicated about that? it's just "this assassin's from the first game, thie one is from the second game". What I'm trying to achieve is not complication or what, but accuracy. Look, I have experience with category so I know how annoying it would be (unless if you don't mind the messy categorizing~) when we want to categorize new articles bout new sequel/prequel of the game. I just want to avoid that and get more accurate bout the category. - SilverSummoner^TaLk 07:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The complication, as I said, lies in dividing a category that doesn't need to be split. In my experience with viewing wikis, too many things have been split into small micro-categories, making it hard to look for other related wiki pages without having to click around a bunch. Like I said before, we're not going to agree so let's just see what others say and go with that. 68.48.225.39 22:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

making it hard to look for other related wiki pages without having to click around a bunch.
eh... you do know that we have navigation bar, right? that thing is created for the sake of easy navigation between pages, just so you know. Moreover, that category needs to be split, because, like I said before, there'll be new games coming around this year and for the sake of neat categorizing and easy updates when we add more pages, those Assassin category should be split. That would be weird and very messy if we split the Assassination Target category, but we don't split the Assassins Category.

let's see what others say
o yea, that should do better. But the problem is, there's almost no one here. Elecbullet used to edit a lot, but he seems to be taking a wikibreak now. Rather than just debating bout category, I think we should just start editing some pages instead. Your edit count suggest you're really new to wiki editing... - SilverSummoner^TaLk 05:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why you keep harping at my new account. Regardless of having an account or not I know when and how to spot something that needs editing -- you should keep that in mind. Being new does not always mean being inexperienced. You mention a navigation bar but why force one to have to jump between two categories about people, just in different games? I understand that AC2 is coming out but I really don't think this split is necessary. Look at other wikis like the Halo wiki and you'll see that various categories like characters, weaponry, and vehicles are not split into little per-game categories and they are all still very easy to find and understand.

Brute

Brute <-- redundant page for Brutes. 03:40, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

ah in case you haven't notice, I've turned it into redirect page. - SilverSummoner^TaLk 03:40, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Logo

I don't think this should be deleted, but if we are doing this, we need a clean image of the Assasins logo in AC1 and a clean image of the Assassins logo from the villa, ideally from the flags, not that concept art image.

I also think that this shouldn't be deleted. It could give information on the logo. But, we do need a lot of pictures, and good ones too. --Silver Mage Ω 10:19, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed that it needs to stay. Its a pretty essential part to the cannon. (Spikepit 11:02, January 8, 2010 (UTC))

I think a section on the Assassins page is enough for this.--PhantomT1412 18:30, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait...you're right. My bad. --Silver Mage Ω 04:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I also think that it should stay, it explains the origins behind the logo, but it does need more pictures of it, like on the flags, at the villa etc. (AssassinOfAus, 4:39, January 13, 2010)

Well if it should stay, the Article needs a serious revamp, beginning from the title: logo sounds too modern and it's not "one Assassin's" Logo, symbol, emblem... whatever you want, but the Assassins'.--PhantomT1412 19:08, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Piero the Gouty

He doesn't need a page. I have more about him in Lorenzo's early life than is on his page. I could update his page with historical information, but mod/admin told me not to include stuff that wasn't mentioned in-game. AgentValentine 02:24, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Actually Valentine, relevant information can be added to further expand a article background. It helps to understand some unadressed things, makes the article bigger (and better ;D) and gives depth to the individual settings of the game. Just don't add unnecessary, irrelevant or stupid info, Feel free to add unmentioned things, just keep it short, direct and, you know, relevant. -- D. Cello 02:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed 3

I think you should make it a redirect to this article Assassin's Creed III. --Crashdude55 13:47, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Stunt Assassination

The gameplay described in this article can be verified by just playing the game, which is the ultimate source. The only manner in which it does not adhere to the sourcing policy is that the style was given the name "stunt assassination," which is not a Ubi term. This technicality can be overcome by simply interpreting the word "stunt" as the ordinary adjective, as opposed to a special name. IanXO4 02:15, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

The sourcing policy states, "The videogames Assassin's Creed and Assassin's Creed II are the highest tier of canon." Anyone can confirm by playing either game that it's possible to jump (sustaining damage) and then assassinate someone. We don't need Ubisoft to confirm that you can do one move followed by another move. If we do, then other articles will need to be edited or deleted also.

This Wiki is strong on facts regarding people/places in Assassin's Creed and the sourcing policy is doing a good job of filtering out speculation. I feel it's light when it comes to gameplay and could use more articles like the one on stunt assassinations. -- Subject 17 03:17, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, we need more articles. Both gameplay and "database"-like pages. If the stunt assassination would stay, it requires a new section of gameplay articles since it doesn't fit the rest of the wiki's standard. Or we start that new gameplay articles or it's gonna be deleted. -- D. Cello 03:46, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I'm willing to rework the article to make it fit. What exactly do you have in mind, a new category on advanced gameplay? Give me some direction and I'll see what I can work up. As an example, another article that would fit in this new gameplay section would cover the fighting style illustrated in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mRMw24xs2I -- Subject 17 03:34, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

The article is very interesting and taught me how to do things I didn't know was even possible for the game. But I can see why it wouldn't fit in, so perhaps you could move it into the main Assassin's Creed article under the Gameplay section as a sub-section to fit in with the rest of the Wiki. Either way, we should keep it in some form. --Crashdude55 08:59, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

• By your own admission, you admit that it is a term Ubi did not come up with; that in itself constitutes OR under the sourcing policy. Are we going to be creating articles on "falling to your death" or "Altaïr's inability to swim" as well? Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 15:04, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Jasca - are you proposing that an entire article of interesting and valuable information be deleted on the basis that 2 words do not meet the sourcing policy? This minor infraction can be circumvented by removing references to the term "stunt assassination". The rest of the article would stand perfectly well on its own, unlike "falling to your death" or "Altaïr's inability to swim". Please take a moment to read some of the other comments. It's clear that this article adds significant value in documenting gameplay, which is an area that is very weak on this site.

If your only opposition is to the term "stunt assassination," please plainly state it, so that the author of the article can address the issue efficiently. Similarly, if your ultimate goal is to remove the stunt assassination article, and you would like to use the sourcing policy as your excuse, please just make a plain statement to that effect. That way the community can address the underlying issue, instead of debating a technicality.IanXO4 04:00, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

• My point is, the entire article covers something totally made up by a gamer; not only the name, but the entire article. Next it'll be "running", or "look around"… Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:48, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Jasca - the entire article covers something totally made up by a gamer
You exaggerate. The author is pointing out that a combination of established gameplay elements leads to a type of assassination that is not specifically documented by Ubi or official guides. AC1 air assassinations also fall into this category.

Next it'll be "running", or "look around"
You are trying to invoke a slippery slope fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope That's like saying that we shouldn't have an article on Malik because "What's next? An article on every other NPC you cross on the street?" That's nonsense. I trust this community can discern interesting characters from trivial ones. Just like I trust that it can discern interesting gameplay from the trivial.

Despite your argumentative tactics, I think I know what you mean. I think the article can be rephrased so that it describes what is possible in terms of gameplay, which has multiple precedents on this site.IanXO4 01:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I see Ducato's point here. The description of gameplay elements is something, but describing techniques like "If you run, he walks faster. If you attack with the hidden blade, he kills in one strike. If you *run with the hidden blade* he kills in one strike faster and cooler!" isn't actually necessary. The best thing would be a page with all the methods of assassination, with short descriptions for each one, and we add a gameplay tag on top of these articles to inform readers that it isn't gamestory-wise, bt real-world related.
Can you rewrite it that way, 17? -- D. Cello 15:03, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was just about to suggest this. One of the issues is, by having the article under that name it gives the impression that it's a Ubisoft-endorsed term. Plus I personally don't see that it's worth an article of its own. Now, if, like Cello suggests, we mention it in a much broarder article on assassination techniques (which would include the ACII techniques), then I would be more inclined to let it slide. Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 15:52, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I can write an article on "Assassination Styles" and make it clear that they were conceived and named by players as opposed to Ubisoft. Off the top of my head I can think of seven or eight styles that would fit well within the article. Give me a few days to write a draft. -- Subject 17 22:53, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed : Brotherhood

Lucas07 recently created this page even though the Brotherhood article is already made. Please deleteTallgeeseIII 22:34, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

He didn't create it, he actually added the delete tag. Btw, deleted. -- D. Cello 23:54, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Tombs

Hey I like the concept of an article about the assassains tombs. How about you edit and save it PassiveNeoluna prove you deserve to be on the staff panel.

uhh, I don't aggre of deleting a few articles, because we can let other people read it, so that the world of Assasin's Creed could be known by people who don't play it too.

Hm, well maybe I was too hasty to add the tag. However I believe the general infomation of the Assassin's Tombs will be better included in Secret Locations or the structure articles themselves. My decision can be vetoed if the other staff and members disagree with me. a Lunatic 04:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood

I really think this page should be deleted immeadiately. I have no idea why it was created, and there's no point in keeping it around. The eagle 02:13, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin&

This page really should be killed before it harms someone, it is just someone posting some vandalism.

One: Sign your posts.
Two: When adding a link to be removed, remember to put the article's name between [[ ]] to make it easy for we to find it ;D -- D. Cello 21:07, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Justice

An anonym just created an article and named it Justice. It completely unnecessary so I was thinking if you can check it out and delete it.

Deleted. And don't forget to sign your posts. -- D. Cello 19:15, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Code, Priests, Assassin Training, etc.

Perhaps I have missed the point behind the pages listed below, but several pages appear to have been created for no reason, and have no content whatsoever. These pages probably need to be deleted: Code, Priests, Assassin Traning, Vince, and Carlo Orsini. All of these pages I found via the Dead-end Pages category, and most if not all of them are blank or nearly-blank. Vince appears to be a misspelled and abandoned attempt by an anon to create an article about Venice, the rest are mostly just junk-pages, unless I'm missing something. -Ulyenov Assassin's Creed Wiki:WikiProject/Who Increaseth Knowledge|Project Determination 00:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

All gone, Thanks for the links -- D. Cello 01:05, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

np, I'll add more when I find them, there are probably plenty of them lurking around. -Ulyenov Assassin's Creed Wiki:WikiProject/Who Increaseth Knowledge|Project Determination 02:00, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed promotional comic

There's already an article on this comic, called Assassin’s Creed: Graphic Novel. We could try to blend it by adding new information of the new article to the old one.

I added the merge notice. -- D. Cello 16:28, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I contacted Hewkii9 if he saw any information missing from the original article, but is in the article he made, he could add it. -- Altaïr 18:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

• Okay it's been merged with his help. He was a good sport about it and had no problem with deleting it his article. -- Altaïr 18:40, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Francessco de Pazzi please dont delete

I was in the middle of editing it when it was marked for deletion. also this is a wiki and it is supposed to be edited by the comunitty. I think all the major assassination targets should have a page i mean all the targets from bonfire of the banitees dlc got one but not francessco its wrong. also i wasnt done editing. i stopped for one second to go check somtihing i came back, my text was gone and it was marked for delition.... i wasnt done.

There is already a Francesco de' Pazzi page your's doesn't have the apostrophe. Campbell430 14:29, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

@Other dude (not you Campbell) - Next time, look harder. And please, if you're going to edit any further, know the right spelling and stick with it. It's a wiki necessity. Oh, and sign your posts. --WarClown^{Wanna Talk?} 14:36, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Giovanni's Robes

It is a working progress! Give it chance to develop! Altairs armour has a page, so so should Giovanni's! Auditore99 21:57, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sixth Apple

I'm in the middle of seperating the Apple we see in the game, and the Apple connected to at least Napoleon and Houdini, as discussed in this thread: http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:First_Apple#inconsistency_napoleon-houdini There is no way they are the same Apple, because that particular Apple has been in the Vault below the Church since Ezio put it there in the early 1500's. -- A Black Rabbit 23:45, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Candidate for deletion: "G"

Hello, I would like the wiki entrance "G" to be deleted. I found it while checking "Random Page"'s. There is no purpose of it and its a waste of space. It was opened by Guarddog supposedly, or he removed unwanted content in it.

Please remove.

Deleted. Sign your posts. -- D. Cello 19:31, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Candidate for deletion: "Short Sword"

I am requesting the deletion of this content: http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Short_Sword

The Short Sword is also a weapon of Brotherhood, and it is added there (now).

Because of this, request ;)

Thank you! (I signed it this time :P)

Taidoboy 13:02, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Denied. It's a unique weapon that only appears in one place. Let's keep it for now, okay? =] -- D. Cello 19:09, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I don't get this, a weapon that only appears once, in the hands of only one person(instead of just being a side note on the weapons and the characters pages) gets an article but recurring weapons don't? -- Zero-ELEC 06:07, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I respect your verdict on this Cello, but, like Zero, I'm also curious why we have pages for them at all. There's not much that can be said about the Multiplayer character weapons (unlike say the Sword of Altaïr, which has a history). We can't even view the stats of each weapon, much less know any specific background about them. Can't all the multiplayer weapons just be a sub-category of the multiplayer characters who own them? =GuardDog 07:37, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, this is different. The request was for deletion of jsut this page. If you want to merge all multiplayer weapons into one article, then it's cool. I understood you wanted only to remove this page and add it to the short blade article, which would disrupt the pattern and be, frankly, ridiculous and out of place. Okay then, Multiplayer weapons it is ;D Merge it and let me know when they should be deleted. -- D. Cello 15:05, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Merged, sorta. Excluded holy blade because I've never heard of it other than as a dagger. Also took the hammer image away. Need's a revamp horribly. -- Zero-ELEC 06:34, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The Holy Blade's referred to separately from a normal dagger in Project Legacy, so I added a section for it. And Cello, I marked the pages for deletion, though in hindsight, maybe I should have just told you :p Sorry, but please go ahead and delete them already, thanks. =GuardDog 01:56, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

72

That number played a pretty big role in AC: B, I don't see why it should be deleted.'R BlaiddDdraig 00:03, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Because we simply don't need an entire article on the number 72. It's a waste of wiki space when virtually everything you can gather on the number from Brotherhood can and should be put into the Trivia sections of the respective articles that the particular note about it most belongs to. It may have played a part in being the password for the Colosseum Vault, yes, but that's basically all it was good for. Sure, Rodrigo Borgia died at the age of 72 (proportedly), so add that to his Trivia, don't make an article on it. My point being this: If you make an article on the number 72, all it will be is a page of Trivia. Trivia, mind you, that can be easily put into articles that better fit it rather than a page of it's own, and that's all it was. So it's unnecessary and inconsequential. -Assassin-of-Rayne- 00:24, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Its funny, just recently I specifically searched for this page because I couldn't remember all the reasons 72 was important other than it being the password to the vault. Without that page, I would have had to jump from page to page looking at Trivia sections to see it all. But with this is was all in one place where I could see. Which is cool considering it was more or less the purpose of ACB, why Desmond entered the animus again. --CarloGrimaldi 03:21, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

AC II Walkthrough page

Someone has created an existing article: http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cowl_Does_Not_Make_the_Monk
Vatsa09:55, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't delete "The Cowl does not make the Monk"!

What is wrong with the memory? there are several other memories like that one, I don't understand why you want to delete it!TDA792 09:55, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

As i mentioned earlier that memory already exists. (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_II_Walkthrough#The_Cowl_Does_Not_Make_the_Monk_-_Tuscany).
Vatsa09:59, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

But all of the other memories have their own page!

ps. Sorry about making two discussions the same - they're posted at the same time! TDA792 10:08, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

I see what you mean.

Vatsa10:30, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Pax Romana

Pax romma shound't be deleted.

I understand that it is a needed page, but you can't just create a page and leave it blank for someone else to fill. Thus the delete template will remain, until someone adds the relevant information to it, or somebody actually deletes it, so it isn't a waste of space. -- ’R BlaiddDdraig 05:25, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please don't delete me

I was in the middle of editing my page when it was marked for deletion. I'm new to the site, and i was wondering,...Could you give me a chance?

If you are trying to create your Bio, do so on your user page. That page is marked for deletion, not your profile.

Vatsa 18:06, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

You made your Userpage into an actrull article, you automatically get your own userpage when you become a member, thats where you edit things about yourself, so we nominated the article about you, by the way you should sign your posts so we know who your are, just type in four tildes and then your username DanMan7308 18:15, February 19, 2011 (UTC) DanMan7308

my page should not be deleted becouse it is telling facts about the main hit charecter Ezio Auditore da FRienze. Also becouse i have the TRUE awnsers to the argument of " Ezio Auditore da Frienze , Fictinol or REAL" Clicky17

An Ezio Auditore article already exists so the article you created has no place here, plus the ideas you have are your own assumptions, not AC universe facts. If you have a theory you want to express, post it in a blog or forum, not an article. I posted a message warning you of such actions on your talkpage yesterday, did you read it? Oh and sign your posts with 4 tildes (~) --The Green Lion^{The Lion's Den} 14:19, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed 3: Vengeance - DON"T DELETE

DUDE DON"T DELETE IT IT"S BADASS, MUCH BETTER THAN GENERATIONS

This is a wiki, it is an encyclopedia about AC. That page is fan fiction, it is not canon. It can be the movie of the year, and it will still be deleted, because it doesn't follow wiki rules. Fan fiction simply cannot be a page. However, turn it into a forum or blog, that is allowed, and encouraged. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig^{WolfDragon’s Lair} 02:08, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Atahualpa

Atahualpa - PLEASE DON'T DELETE THIS PAGE! IT IS VERY HELPFUL AND EDUCATIONAL AND ITS LINKED TO ASSASSIN'S CREED AS A SECONDARY SOURCE FROM FRANCISCO PIZZARO!

This page does not deserve to be deleted,as i have many sources that point out the Inca Emperor to the Assassin's Creed series,specifically in Assassin's Creed II. I have proof of Atahualpa owning a Piece of Eden, The The Crystal Skulls.another proof is from real Historical context; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atahualpa. And there is a mention on the Francisco Pizzaro page about Atahualpa owning a Piece of Eden,The Crystal Skulls and Pizzaro taking it from him and ordering Atahualpa's own men to strangle him to death. I personally don't think this page should be deleted as it is linked to the Francisco Pizzaro page and it wouldnt be good to leave a name of a person in history unheard basically by the general public. User - RougeAssassin7

Uhmmm....No. Unless he shows up, or mentioned, in AC, he's out of here. Sorry bud, rules are rules. --Juan Blanco^{Reception Area} 04:50, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Going around in circles

This topic contains nothing innapropriate. The topic is unlikely to cause offense. There are no personal attacks (which cannot be said for SO many other topics).

The thread points out that the same things keep being addressed in other topics., eventually, leading to conversations going around in circles. This isn;t inappropriate. 2.217.22.44 17:24, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

AC titles?

I was wondering what you guys think of the Assassins Creed games. I myself enjoy the story and the gameplay however, me and my friend were discussing games. Such as AC, he thinks it's overrated and mainstream. What do you guys think honestly?

I don't and I think theres something wrong with him lol

Scar

Why should it be deleted, exactly?

… it's a scar. We going to have articles on their hairlines next? Besides, what little importance the scar plays is already adequately covered in the characters respective articles. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 13:49, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about deeting the whole article, but iliekd the comparative picture. If the scar page is being deleted, I want that pic adapted somewhere on wiki first. -- D. Cello 16:36, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

this page can actually be helpful because who knows, we might have to play as another one of desmond's ancestors assassins and it can show how the new assassin got his scar, and they might reveal how altair got his and if its a natural trait by those who came before Droideka93 21:05, June 22, 2011 (UTC)Droideka93

Or, we could add that information to their actual articles. You know, the place where readers will go for any information on that particular subject… --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 21:08, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

So far tis two votes for keeping it. -- D. Cello 21:14, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

It's not a vote Cello, it's a discussion, and so far I've yet to see a single valid reason as to why we should keep it. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 22:15, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Droideka's giving valid reasons. I don't see why it should be deleted. I mean, just stop arguing about it and everything will be fine just the way it was. This page staying or being deleted doesn't downgrade the whole Wiki; it's merely an addition, it was meant that way like every page is, and to also clear up things. I just don't think it should be deleted; it's not written noobily and it contains all known information with related pictures. UDITORE 22:26, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

On the contrary, this page does degrade the wiki. It may not be noticeable, but it still does it. It's poorly written, very uninformative and, as I've already mentioned, unneccessary. It adds nothing that is not already covered in other articles, and in fact, actually professes to know very little on the subject it is supposedly covering. To quote the article:

"The scar is the most iconic external characteristic (that's opinion, which is against the rules) that Desmond Miles, Ezio Auditore and Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad share. However, it remains unknown how Altaïr and Desmond got it. (So already, the article admits it doesn't know anything about two-thirds of the subject)

It then moves on to a tiny section entitled Ezio's Scar, which reads as follows:

"In Assassin's Creed II (OOU remark, once again, against the rules), it is shown that Ezio got his scar by being hit in the face with a rock during a fight, which Vieri de' Pazzi threw at him.(useful information ends here, and is more adequately covered on Ezio's own article) Later, he goes with Federico to a doctor, who examines the cut on his lip and patches it. Because of these events, he gains the scar on his lips that will remain there for the rest of his life.

So once again I ask, why does this article still exist? --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 01:51, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

... I hate when you're right XD Very well, the page will be deleted, but only after that comparative picture is moved somewhere else on wiki. Only then I'll delete this article. -- D. Cello 03:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Bye bye Scar. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 13:37, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Emperor Qin Shi Huang

i think this page should be deleted, as this page already exists and its useless space that can be used in future articles for ACR, and its basically the same thing, just with a different name. Droideka93 23:16, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ford Motor Company

I don't think the Ford Motor Company page should be deleted because I think that it does add more background information to the activities of the Templars and even if this was to be considered a serious candidate for deletion the articles like NASA, the CIA, BP etc would also have to be considered. Even pages like Syria would be called into question. What I mean is that this article (and the aforementioned ones) add more accessible depth for readers for a story that has such immense depth as Assassin's Creed. Just my opinion anyways. Kaloneous 00:08, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, the wiki would be a poor place if we deleted every article that adds to the backstory of Assassin's Creed. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 00:49, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure how the process works but can I removed the candidate for deletion off the Ford article then? Kaloneous 00:58, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

No. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:35, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Kaloneous. - Dop3man 80 21:49, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

The Ford company has a Templar background, so therefore is relevant to the series. I don't think it should be deleted.

User212 20:47, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

And so everyone agrees with Kalo. The deletion template still can't be taken out?

Il Falcone 20:53, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Battle tactics

Do we really need this article? Besides the fact that it's unsourced, it's 90% POV and OR. It's also OOU nd, quite frankly, serves no really use. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 17:59, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

It details all of the weapons that Ezio and Altair use and what they can be used for. I think that it should stay, but that's just my opinion. Slate Orchid 18:32, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't detail the weapons in any way. It simply states what they are and then describes different types of attack. The information could esaily be implemented on the weapons respective articles, if it wasn't pure OR. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 14:43, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Charlatan

If we compare to Brotherhood, about 50 or 60% of multiplayer characters are revealed by this time.

So can we just keep the page and keep ourselves away from speculations? The character was mentioned in the famous PC Gamer magazine which has interviewed Ubisoft. And I don't really think that the Charlatan is an appropriate "suspected" name for the woman character of Trickster. Charlatan looks more like slowy-oldy-impostor-thing for me. And if it IS pre-beta name of Trickster, I want a source of that. Thanks ;) Rapnoize 15:53, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

The definition for Charlatan describes it as a word that means a malicious trickster. Seeing as it's mentioned as a trickster, it made me consider it as a pre-beta name for the Trickster character. In that same source, it mentions the 'Hijack' mode, which sounds a lot like Artifact Assault.

Until there is a source for the Charlatan that isn't just a small sentence, I reckon the deletion tag should stay, or the article could be easily remade when more information is found. Slate Vesper 10:14, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I though that a Charlatan is a person who mixxes chemicals, nothing atall like a trickster, and were basing the knowledge on Wikipedia against a Magazine's article purly about ACR with interveiws? (i know which i would rate more highly) And What about the Theif and Footpad (from BH) they mean same thing, maybe the Charlatan is brother of Trickster, i suggest it be watched until more information comes avlabile. Bobemor 15:48, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

The article was a passing mention, and therefore, it's likely that they've changed the name since then. This was back in July after all, and Ubisoft could have come up with a better word. By the way, if it turns out that the Charlatan is indeed a character, all we would need to do is save the source link and we can reapply it back onto the article if it is recreated.

By the way, a person who mixes chemicals is an Alchemist/Chemist, not a Charlatan. The whole story of the snake oil behind the word's origin is because the person would say that it cures lots of diseases/illnesses, when it didn't work at all. Slate Vesper 16:07, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Candidate for deletion: Altairs Robes

Please don't delete the page for Altair's robes. i didn't make it, but i can easily fix that problem. just please don't delete it, and message me on my talk page to let me know if you want to help. please leave it there, i'll take care of the rest.

cheers

Ezio ^{TALK 2 ME, ASSASSINS!} 23:51, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Noob page

my noob page is good advice for newbies that do not know what to do in the chat room! it also explains the "reasons" that i got banned! Totally Unfair! Audre hates me for no reason. apparently i am retarded! this is a official complaint and a warning letter!

Sign your posts Assassin 927. If you have a complaint, make a blog or post in a Staff's message wall, don't use the main space. =GuardDog 00:30, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Dishonouring the Dead blog

Deleteing my blog serously:s why are you doing that i do believe the blog is a place wher i can say what i want is that not so ??

if it is for the catorgories that i added then just delete them not my whole post :(

i mean if there are certian things we are not allowed to say then please put a rule list up :)

on a closing note for being all about assassins creed you are being very close minded to an opinion and more controlling over what people can say on here if you didnt like it there was a comment box that you very easily could have shared your own opinion in

Chaos0vt 01:16, October 27, 2011 (UTC)t

No it's because you have moved your blog to the mainspace. It's more of an article than a blog post now, so it has been deleted. --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 04:50, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

ok i get thats why you deleted it. May i ask how it became an article as i dont fancy getting all my stuff

deleted:) p.s. while your at delteting my stuff you couldnt possible delete my last two blogs could you ??

or at least tell me how to do that:) thanks Chaos0vt 11:19, October 27, 2011 (UTC) p.s.s. is there any way my article could be undeleted and

just put back in my blog??

If you want anything deleted, add the delete template along with the reason you want that page to be deleted. {{Delete|Reason}}, replace the reason. Also, a blog title is prefixed with the user name, User_blog:username/Blog title. You however, removed the user name prefix and moving the blog to mainspace. As for the contents of the previous blog, I presume you can re-write them. ;) --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 12:45, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

ah ok my bad i didnt even realize i had done so to be honestChaos0vt 15:48, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ireland

Dont delete the irish page! —unsigned comment by IrishAssassin22 (talk · contr)

Ireland hasn't been mentioned in any of the Assassin's Creed games. So, no we can't have an inappropriate page. --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 03:06, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Upgrade and Explore

This memory is not speculation as it is seen in the new 35 minute video with Darby. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6eP2QcU78 Stormbeast 01:13, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Assassin creed 3 protagonist theory

Assassin creed 3 protagonist theory

This is just an unnecessery page made by some guy who has a 'feeling' about the AC3 protagonist (something he could post in a forum) Auditore7 11:25, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

That's exactly why I moved the page to a forum page. Nesty ^{Wanna talk?} 11:53, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

DONT DELETE THE RENEGADE (MEMORY) PAGE IT IS SO BEAST it helps people get past the level with detail it helped me so much

Varangians and Almogavars

The reason for deletion is "Could be put on Guards". What about Seekers, Agile guards, Janissaries, Papal Guard and Brutes? What's so special about them? Makao 22:35, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

You are right, I was mistaken. My bad, and therefore my apologies. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 22:37, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's 'k Makao 22:38, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Inner Sanctum of the Templar Order

Um, I don't get why this page is a candidate for deletion. All of it's contents come from the Abstergo Dossiers from Revelations. Here is a video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLDWzI-eI_c (at arround 13:55). Rekkert 15:29, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Israeli Assassins

In my point of view The Israeli Assassins were important because they helped Altaïr in Jerusalem, and it would be unfair don't having "factions" who kinda appeared in the game. And there are Mongolian Assassins; Persian Assassins; Egyptian Assassins; ETC. Why don't have Israeli Assassins!? I think it is really unfair that. There are pages that really need to be deleted, I saw; but this one no! This one is a page of history, dignity, and must have a place in the world. Rodda 22:51, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Provide a reliable source of their mention in-game and how they helped Altaïr. --Vatsa (talk • Gentek) 23:52, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Syrian Assassins applies to all Assassins in the Levant. Plus, Israel did not exist during the High Middle Ages. There is no such thing as "Israeli Assassins"; and most of all, you turned it into a fanfic page. This page will not be created because you live in Israel. -- Master Sima Yi 17:19, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Sima, calling a faction of the Assassins 'Israeli' would be completely anachronical and not directly relate to the game. The Assassins in the region were part of the Syrian faction. I think Rodda should not bring his personal or political beliefs into the wiki. Wookie Assassin. 02:39, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Candidates for Deletion : How to Remove Weapons in AC: Brotherhood

Don't delete my page forAC brotherhood. Its my first page and its not useless. Some people would enjoy their player with no weapons on him and other may not, but you and I can easily fix that problem. just please don't delete it, please message me on my talk page to let me know if you want to help me improve it. please leave it there, i'll take care of the rest with a little help with you guys. I'm new and still learning so please give me a break. =D

Thank you for your time, @EzioAuditoreDeFirenza

Please check my response to your query on Teller's page, that explains my response and reasoning. Nostalgia AC ^{Let's talk.} 02:37, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Robert C. Smith

So, where exactly is it in the Rifts that Robert C. Smith pops up? I've been searching for a long time, but I can't seem to find a single picture or mention of Robert C. Smith anywhere in the entire franchise. — M.C.Tales 22:05, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Tenets

Please don't delete The Assassin's tenets because there is nothing wrong with it. I have done my best to create and accurate page on the Tenets and I believe they are very important and should be known.

Please put your messages under a different header from now on and sign your posts. Also, the information on your page is already on the page: The Creed. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 10:59, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

I am the creator of the page "The Assassin's tenets" and I believe that deleting this page is wrong. The page I have created has flawless grammar and spelling and there is no offencive language or themes on the page. If I have done anything else wrong please notify me.

GeassChild 11:03, January 27, 2012 (UTC)GeassChild

Like I said, the page does not contain new information, information we don't have on the wiki yet. Also, it doesn't follow the Manual of Style and the image has not been sourced. I think that sums it up quite neatly. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 11:07, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

"flawless grammar and spelling", are you sure? Hmmm. Can you tell me then, why you've spelled "consequences" as "concerquences". As seen here: "...swift and severe concerquences." But that's not all! Let's have a look here: "...through the people. this relationship is symbolic.". Where's the capital letter? As well as that, this page is an MoS nightmare; breaking policies all over the place. But nevermind, I'm sure your next article will be... "flawless". -- 'R BlaiddDdraig ^{Enter... THE SCARY DOOR} 11:27, January 27, 2012 (UTC)