Board Thread:Wiki discussion/@comment-1828842-20200521221354/@comment-746824-20200523040033

"Together then."

To start with, hi, I've been a bit absent these past few days, IRL things have kept me a bit busy, sorry about that!

For the Category merges, the first one (→ Category:Louisiana), I do have a couple of questions: do we have a defined policy on location categories? What do we normally do for states/provinces/territories within countries? What sort of granularity do we want?

For the second one (→ Category:Documents) seems fairly clean cut as a yeah, why not.

The third one (→ Category: Massachusetts) raises similar questions as the first. I abstain from voicing a direct opinion on these, especially without checking up directly what is in these categories.

Now, going to locations, I again think the first one (→ Levant), is fairly clear cut that as of right now, Syria has not appeared properly in Assassin's Creed and the Levant is not exactly Syria, and as such, the Syria page is mostly useless, and should be merged or deleted.

For the second one, (→ Sanctuary of Kosmos) an argument could be made that the Sanctuary is within the Cave of Gaia, though having what would amount to identical articles about a cave and a room within the cave is... a bit too much. So yeah, merge should happen.

Now for the "Other" pages~

For the first one (→ Assassin's Creed (series)), I would be remiss to not mention that I've spent... some time fixing up the Games and Media page and would be slightly saddened to see it disappear. Having said that, it is perfectly logical to merge these two, whether the template established in Games and Media gets ported to a gallery page or not, Games and Media as it currently is is redundant.

The → Guild challenges merge, I think, is not so clear cut. I think that if we were to merge the Guild challenges we should also merge the Club challenges from ACIII, as they serve what amounts to the same function and idea: minor memories that allow for further sync related to local unions that an Assassin used to prove themselves. So yes, merge, but only if Club challenges get included.

→ Genetic memory is, again, fairly easy to say yes to; it is a factor in Genetic memory, which we have a more focused article on.

Riverboats are boats, so yea merge → Boat.

I am unclear as to what the Naval Campaign exactly is. Wouldn't it be something like "Templar Naval Campaign"? "The Naval Campaign", while the official name, sounds an awful lot like a descriptor. Mark me down as ambivalent as far as → The Naval Campaign

A clear cut nay? Yay! Or, uh, Nay! I think this is a definite no, as far as → Greek mythology, the twelve olympians/gods are a part of Greek myth, but deserving of its own article, especially since Odyssey implied certain things about them (the Throne Room at the edge of Atlantis having the twelve seats with symbols for each god, for example.)

Completely agree with Sol's original comments, in regards to the → Seven Years' War and → Granada War. And, even if, as pointed by Lacrossedeamon, there are references to the Reconquista, we can add those after we've confirmation of them. Meanwhile the page should be merged.

Oof, weapons now; alright, we know we combine weapons that are the same across multiple games... but do we know that the → Sword of Altaïr is the same as "Altaïr's Sword", the blade used by Shay, or the two "Altaïr's Swords" wielded by Edward? They don't use the same name as every other appearance, there's multiple of them (one of them has a knife!)... It just feels like we can't exactly confirm if they're... well, the same.

Meanwhile → Queen Anne's Pistol and Queen Anne's Pistols certainly look identical and are meant to be "mass" consumer items, so even though there's two of them in one iteration, it makes sense.

Similarly, → Pirate Scimitar are generic blades of which it is reasonable to assume many were made.

Still agree with the → Hidden Blade merge.

I do not agree with the → French Cuttoe merge, as they are quite simply not the same swords. Even if they're all cuttoes, they're called diferently and have distinct visuals: ACIII "Cuttoe Sword" has the curving guard of American cuttoes in a steely gray, while Liberation "Cuttoe Sword", while named the same, has a shorter guard with a golden finish and more brown hilt wrapping. Meanwhile the the "French cuttoe" from Rogue has a completely different design having a curved blade, a prominent curved cross-guard and rain guard, both with cross engravings and what appear to be gems engraved in the hilt itself, all tapering in a curved pommel.

Now, onto the → Mentor and → Grandmaster merges... I decidedly believe that they don't need to be merged, rather at best the non-merging pages renamed to clarify that Templar leader and Assassin leader aren't... titles unlike Grand Master and Mentor.

As for the → Hybrid merge... I believe that the whole thing is a gross mischaracterisation of what a "Hybrid" is. Yes, I believe they should be merged, though under what name I am unsure. I do believe, tho, that "Hyrbids" and "Tainted Ones" are meant to just be what we used to call "Assassins", as in the "Children of Two Worlds". I believe these are just different terms for the same type of person: a Human with Isu ancestry. While I do believe these should be merged, I also believe this should be clarified.

And finally, as much as it pains me to use The Official Collection as a source, it is officially licensed and as such Tinia / Zeus / → Jupiter are the same Isu. What this means for the plot of Fate of Atlantis, given that Poseidon claims Zeus is his brother... who is Tinia/Jupiter, who then went on to work with Juno... ugh.

→ Privateer makes no sense.

That's... that's it! That took too long.

Merge	Vote
Category:Louisiana	W
Category:Documents	Y
Category: Massachusetts	W
Levant	Y
Sanctuary of Kosmos	Y
Assassin's Creed (series)	O
Guild challenges	O
Genetic memory	Y
Boat	Y
The Naval Campaign	A
Greek mythology	X
Seven Years' War	Y
Granada War	Y
Sword of Altaïr	X
Queen Anne's Pistol	Y
Pirate Scimitar	Y
Hidden Blade	Y
French Cuttoe	X
Grand Master	O
Mentor	O
Bounty hunters	Y
Privateers	X
Hybrid	O
Jupiter	Y