Board Thread:Wiki discussion/@comment-18014300-20200504004330/@comment-746824-20200504064502

Firstly, I wholeheartedly agree with this proposal. Hidden Ones *are* Assassins. Assassins as an organisation, we knew even before Origins, were formed long before the "Order of Assassins" was formed in Persia and Syria in the early XI century. Same for the Templar organisation and the "Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon". We always *knew* they took different names before these formalisations, we just had limited knowledge of the Brotherhood and Order before that time. If this is the end of the conversation I am content. The Order of the Ancients are Templars, as the Hidden Ones are Assassins. This means Bayek and Amunet and Brutus and all those others, should be that and only that. Different names for different eras, but a continuity of organisation. Before Origins there was no doubt that the people before they were named these titles were Assassins and Templars, and there really shouldn't be any doubt afterwards either.

However this leads me to my second point, which might be a tad more controversial: I also believe that Iltani's Order (which officially we know only as the Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins) and Artabanus' group (which official we know only as the Persian Brotherhood of Assassins) should be referred to as "Assassins". We do not know them as anything else, our current names are currently conjectural despite them having actual, canon names. Similarly the Children of Cain should be referred to as Templars. It is simply what they are known as in present day and, by all accounts, are Assassins/Templars in all but name. These were simply them before they became fully organised as they are in the modern day.

We should also not refer to Iltani, Darius and Wei Yu as anything other than Assassins, given those are the titles given to them in-universe over multiple entries and media. We should note they might have been given these titles posthumously, but are nonetheless that as far as Modern Day Assassins' beliefs, as evidenced by MD files presented in the Unity-Syndicate games. (I honestly forget which had that, I think it was Syndicate?) Besides, their Orders and groups were, by all accounts Assassins, sometimes even referred to as such in-game. They even had variations of the Assassin insignia in various materials.

That is, of course, unless Ubisoft actively calls them "proto-x", in which case the point is moot and we should be deferring to them. But to the best of my knowledge, Ubisoft.... hasn't done so?

Either way, the initial proposal I am completely behind.