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Robes

Hey The Wikia Editor

So, I felt the need to jump in here and ask you not to make any more robes/outfits articles. The original two, Altaïr's and Ezio's were justifiable due to the fact that they wore several robes throughout their lifetime. Shay Cormac's robes would fall under that as well, but the only reason I can think of for Ratonhnhaké:ton, Aveline and Edward's robes to stick around is to compare how the detail evolves - otherwise, those pages serve little purpose. I'm not sure about Arno...

Anyways, outfits like the Native armor and the Templar armor don't really warrant their own articles, considering all the information in those articles is already mentioned on the outfit pages. I will probably be deleting those sometime soon. I'm open for discussion regarding the other articles about robes. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 23:10, November 25, 2015 (UTC)

Outfits

I noticed your image posts on the Assassin's Creed: Unity outfits. It's been two years since that game was released and no one haven't even added the rest until now. You should try doing the same on the Assassin's Creed: Syndicate outfits page. Baransu17 (talk) 00:13, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

Antoninus Pius

Hey The Wikia Editor,

I just have a quick question. You cited Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood as your source for the Antoninus article - where specifically in the game is there information on him? (I presume one of the landmark database articles, but I don't know, so I'm asking you :p)

Cheers! Crook ^{The Constantine District} 21:21, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Authors

Hello there! As it is clearly indicated here, the books Ezio actually found in Constantinople were ten. However, three were missing from the matching session on the book shops article:

• yesterday I noticed that and added Liutprand's Mission to Constantinople;
• but, as I guess you already know, Aesop's Fables are missing too,
• as well as Empedocles' (if I remember rightly) On Nature. Problem is, they were obtained in the Signs and Symbols missions, but there seems to be some confusion on which from where. If we could rework the list and include these three in a decent order, I may write the relative articles (Empedocles, On Nature, Aesop's Fables). --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 19:17, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Again on authors and books

Hey there. Sadly, I can't access Revelations since I don't have my Xbox with me right now. Therefore, if you could, perhaps you could also copy-paste the summaries about the missing books (Mission on Constantinople, Aesop's Fable, not to mention the mysterious On Nature which I plan to add to the book shops article). What do you say? Best regards. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 18:53, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Yet again on books etc.

Oh, then I may be able to do it. Just, around the 20th of December, ahah. As for On Nature, I'm dead sure it's in the game. I just have a memory for this stuff and at times I just load my 100% games (both Assassin's CreedS and others) and hang around with my badass character. Well, when I load up Revelations I just stay in the Galata hideout and I browse the books because I like doing that once in a time. And On Nature IS there, I can't just remember if it's Parmenides' or Empedocles' one. Perhaps we could look for videos on YouTube? Something like "all books in Revelations" or the like. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 20:59, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

I've found two more evidences of On Nature being there: the Galata headquarters page included a reference to it, and it's in the novel too. I've read that page a few seconds ago, it says Sofia and Ezio get the book hidden by Niccolò Polo and they open it and inside there's a map of the city with the Maiden's Tower highlighted. So I guess it's in-game too. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 17:32, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Proofreading the Rites articles

Hey, I see that you've been active around the wiki lately. I was wondering if you would mind proofreading the Templar Rites articles for grammar, syntax, and spelling errors. English is not the first language of the user who expanded them, and frankly, they're all littered with grammar mistakes now, no offense to him. I was planning on doing them, but then I realized that I might not have the time, and in any case, it may be more efficient for more than one person to proofread them. Thank you! Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 02:50, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Religion of Organizations

Hey Wikia Editor,

There is a user going around adding religions to the religion parameter of the various Assassin and Templar branches. There are a few issues with this.

The first is that my understanding is that that parameter describes the religion endorsed (especially officially) by the organization, rather than the religious demographics. The editor seems to see it as describing religious demographics, hence why he lists "Irreligious" alongside "Christianity", "Islam", etc. However, I worry that this gives the wrong impression to readers that the Assassin branches officially endorse these religions, when in fact, they're an irreligious organization with quotes expressly supporting an agnostic way of thinking while also heavily suggesting atheism. Now, if the religion parameter is describing religious demographics not the official religion of the organization, it may be different, as in spite of the Assassins' beliefs, there have been at least a few religious Assassins (Raphael Sánchez and Luis de Santángel both having been Jews).

However, if we follow by his interpretation of what the religion parameter means, there is another issue, and that is that he is assuming the religious demographics of these branches based entirely on the religions of the region they're based. He assumed "Buddhism" for Chinese Assassins just because Buddhism is a major religion in China, Catholicism for the French Templars, "various" for the American Assassins and Templars, and so-forth. I have tried to talk to him, but he's not very communicative. He went ahead and added a few games as citations, but I find them dubious because I don't remember encounter anything of the sort in AC3 explaining that the Assassins of the Colonial Brotherhood were of various faiths or that the Ottoman Assassins were Muslim. Furthermore, Arno's quote at the end of Unity explains that "No higher power sits in judgment of us. No supreme being watches to punish us for our sins" while Altaïr in AC1 says "To recognize nothing is true and everything is permitted. That laws arise not from divinity, but reason." This seems to repudiate the idea that the Levantine Assassins are Muslim like they are historically or that the French Assassins are Catholic. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 18:58, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter! :) Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 05:15, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

A Complete list of Dates for the Film

Hey, I'm not sure if you have the novelization of the film or not, but if you did, I was wondering if you could refresh me on a complete list of dates for events that occurred in the film novelization as well as the film. The movie and its novelization have clearly contradictory dates if I remember correctly. I thought it'd be a good idea for me to review these dates before I send the message to Aymar. In particular, I wanted to double-check that the film and/or the novelization do clearly place the ransom exchange on the day Granada was handed over to the Spanish. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:33, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

So this complicates things. Maxattac wrote that:

"The fall of Granada could have occured off-screen while the Assassins were still in jail, and then sometimes later while arriving to Granada they saw the toll on the city and witnessed the formal surrender of Muhammad in his palace (like leaving the keys of his appartement for the next owner ^^). My timeline; Mid 1491: Aguilar formally inducted -> late 1491: failed rescue mission near Granada -> 6th Jan 1492: execution after travel from Granada (250km, probably in a wagon) and days of imprisonment in Seville -> 8th or 9th Jan 1492: the templars and the Assassins arrive in Granada (250km, riding horses) -> 13th or 14th: five days trip to Palos de la Frontera (350km, riding horses), meet Colombus." Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:54, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

If the film takes precedence over the novel though, and the film clearly gives a date of January 6 for one of the regressions (not sure which one, their attempt to rescue Ahmed or the auto-da-fé?), then, in the absence of Aymar explicitly clarifying that this was one of the script mistakes, doesn't this mean that we have to accept that the ransom meeting occurs after January 6 and thus after Granada is handed over to the Spanish? Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:13, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, then does this mean I don't have to change the ending of the Granada War article? xD Because I was a bit angsting over having to rewrite it to reflect the January 6 date haha. However, do you by any chance have any real source for when Muhammad's abdication ceremony took place? Everywhere I read, I can only find that he transferred sovereignty of Granada to the Spanish on January 2 as stipulated in the treaty. I don't think it makes sense that the abdication ceremony would take place after that date, but I have considered the possibility that they scheduled the affair as a separate event a bit later, probably within the week. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 08:32, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Pretty much every source I've seen seems to agree that the abdication ceremony occured on January 2. After all, the whole point of the Treaty of Granada is that the period between November 25 1491 - January 2 1492 would involve the transition of power from the Moorish Emirate of Granada to the Catholic monarchs of Spain. Christopher Columbus, who was apparently there on the day of the abdication ceremony, described it as such: After your Highnesses ended the war of the Moors who reigned in Europe, and finished the war of the great city of Granada, where this present year 1492 on the 2nd January I saw the royal banners of Your Highnesses planted by force of arms on the towers of the Alhambra. The Wikia Editor (talk) 11:12, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Does this mean that Ezio's absence from the ransom meeting may have been because he was preoccupied with saving civilians from Inquisition soldiers and assassinating Juan de Marillo? :O Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:38, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Can I send the draft of my message to Aymar over to you? I'm not sure if I should just post it here on your talk page or if it would be better via some form of private messaging. Are you on the IRC? I think I've delayed long enough, but I guess I'm a bit nervous that I covered everything or that I wrote in the right tone. I'm starting to think I actually wrote too formally. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 03:42, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I posted the draft. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 20:28, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Gaius Julius Caesar → Julius Caesar

Hey why was Gaius Julius Caesar moved to "Julius Caesar"? Is it because in AC sources, he is only named the latter? Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:26, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Pretty much, yes. As far as I'm aware, his full name has never even been used in any AC sources. The Wikia Editor (talk) 01:30, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Ah I see, I trust you :P, but I will double-check the sources anyways. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:44, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Assassin Guilds & Templar Rites pages

Hey Wikia Editor, I just thought I'd bring to your attention that Bovkaffe is making a case that many of the pages for Assassin guilds and Templar rites should be deleted as speculative. You can find some of his comments regarding this on the talk page of the "Templars" article. Since I know you were one of the early proponents for these articles and that we had discussed this to some degree before at the time, I thought it'd be good for you to give some of your thoughts and your perspective on this. Thanks Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 23:10, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

You know, if we're being really technical, the Deletion templates are actually supposed to be left there until the discussions have been concluded because those headers aren't supposed to alert people to delete the article, but to discuss whether or not to delete the article and that someone thinks it should be deleted whether it should be or not. xD This is how it is over at Wikipedia and Wookieepedia. But given the lack of established procedure for such discussions, I agree that the Deletion headers seem to just mark these pages for outright deletion and may even cause an admin to do so without checking discussions. Not a big deal, but I thought I should let you know. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 11:13, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Chatting

Hi Wikia Editor! So I've got a few ideas lined up at the moment that I wanted to discuss with some community members in private. Do you think you'll be able to come on the IRC or Discord sometime soon? -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:46, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

That's the eventual plan, but before I do I want to iron these things out first. Whenever you're able, just follow this link: https://discord.gg/eBqzbg
It'll take you to our Discord/IRC channel. It's just a matter of signing up. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:36, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

About Aphrodite and Satan

Hey, Wikia Editor. I hope you're doing well. I want to ask you if you can recommend to me some good source of information (aside from Wikipedia) where I can learn more about the Canaanite Pantheon and Sumerian History. It's for a project of mine I mentioned months ago. 

Have a nice day.

Cristophorus35 (talk) 03:33, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hassan the Younger

Heya Wikia Editor. Would you be able to show me what exactly the Official Game Guide says on Hassan the Younger? I'm curious. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 13:37, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Under Al Mualim's entry:

"It's unclear why he was sent from Alamut to establish the Fortress of Masyaf, but everyone has their own tale to tell. Some say he had a disagreement with Hassan the Younger over the Assassin belief system, and that he split in order to establish his own Assassin Order. Others say he was sent to merely grow the Assassins' influence–that it is neither Saracen nor Crusader that controls the Holy Land, but him. And there are others still who whisper of a secret desire for power and kingship."

This is the only mention of Hassan the Younger in the entire book. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 15:18, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

"Happy Editing"??? Well if you actually try not to delete every single article I make, It may be considered "Happy"!

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Editing histories of Assassins and Templars

Hey Wikia Editor, I appreciate your efforts in updating the history section of the Assassin article, but I just thought I'd let you know that Master Sima Yi has already been working on an entire rewrite of the history sections of the Assassins and Templars articles, rendering the time and energy you invest into them potentially moot if he finds that it conflicts with your edits. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 02:10, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

At the same time it seems like you're copying content from my sandbox and I'm of course not very happy with that. I know it's a collaborative effort, but I'd still like to put the content I wrote myself online under my own name. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 09:08, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

I see now that you also copied my content and used it on the Hidden Ones page. This was already before I sent this message, but I do feel the need to point out that I feel extremely offended that you've done so without asking me. For future reference on any collaborative effort, however harmless you may deem it, do reach out before using someone else's work. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 16:53, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Death dates

I actually wasn't too sure about adding the death dates at the very introduction in the articles for new characters. Although it would be proper format, and it's probably better to do it now when we would have to add them later, I also thought perhaps we should be considerate of the possibility of spoiling other fans. A person who chanced upon the articles by accident or who searched up the article hoping that they could just avoid the spoilers at the end would instantly know the character died at the slightest glance. I know the latter seems a bit foolish since there isn't much point to reading the article without finishing the side-quests anyways, but I know that in the past, I've done so occasionally for a character because I missed some detail and wanted just some clarification on that specific detail before finishing the quest. Anyways, I'm fine either way, but I just thought I'd bring this up in case you have any thoughts about it. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 18:45, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back

You're back?! :D Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 03:29, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

Consensus on Assassin & Templar branches

Hello Wikia Editor, I just thought you might be interested in reading up on our latest consensus on how our wiki will be approaching articles Assassin and Templar branches moving forward in case of any confusion. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 13:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)