Talk:Yang Yuhuan
Move to real name
I think per our naming policy which favors real names to common names (e.g. Ratonhnhaké:ton instead of "Connor"), we are supposed to move this to Yang Yuhuan. Guifei was just her title, which was the highest concubinage rank during the Tang dynasty and made her second to the position of empress. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 06:59, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to revive this question because it seems we have forgotten all about it. Double-checking our manual of style, the name used in anAssassin's Creed source takes precedence over the real name if the latter never appears in an Assassin's Creed source. I'm not sure if Yang Guifei's real name has appeared in Dynasty yet. Back in the day, we even had Gaius Julius Caesar only at Julius Caesar for this reason, a technicality that I'm not sure I agree with anymore. I think that the "canonical name" takes precedence over the form of the name widely used in the real-world applies more to instances like "Cristoffa Corombo" over "Christopher Columbus" (prior to the release of the film). Where the "canonical name" given to us is just a part of the real name, I'm not sure this policy makes sense.
In any case, the thing that makes me most uneasy about leaving this article title at Yang Guifei rather than moving it to Yang Yuhuan is because historically, women in China often did not have their names recorded. Even many empresses are known only by their surname and their title. Given how fastidious the Chinese have been for thousands of years in recording history, it shocks me how sexism can lead them to the extent of regularly erasing women's names. In any case, whenever a historical Chinese women does have their real name recorded to us, I actually really cherish that. So this context makes me more uncomfortable with leaving the article title at just her surname + title. And yet perhaps a counter-argument is that even for the article titles of emperors, we use their most widely known title not their real names? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 19:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I say we can move everything. Like, there's already an issue with consistency, the chinese emperors are " Jiajing Emperor " and " Hongwu Emperor " but Queen Victoria is " Victoria, Queen of the United Kingdom ". If we want consistency we could move them to titles such as "Zhu Di, Yongle Emperor" and this page to "Yang Yuhuan, Guifei". This is just a suggestion and if you want to ignore it and just move this page you also have my vote for it. - Soranin (talk) 20:15, 29 March 2021 (UTC)