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Outfit

I love her Assassin outfit, it looks much better than Jacob's. Echoh98 (talk) 17:15, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure why, but Evie gives off an Assassin vibe much more than Jacob. It might be more than just the outfit; Jacob seems like a really jovial and boisterous guy. Which would make Evie the perfect person to rein him in at times (I hope). Crook The Constantine District 17:21, May 12, 2015 (UTC)
Still wish she was blonde. she gives off too much of a Hope Jensen vibe to me, which knits too closely with the street gang thing. Slate Vesper (talk) 17:59, May 12, 2015 (UTC)
Now that you mention it... a lighter haircolour would've set her and her brother apart a bit more from previous characters. The Assassin's Creed franchise doesn't really do "blonde", it seems (barring Edward and Lucy). I wonder why. Crook The Constantine District 18:16, May 12, 2015 (UTC)
Because environmental lighting goes apeshit with light hair. Have you forgotten Edward turning flaming ginger in the Tulum temple? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 18:21, May 12, 2015 (UTC)
I can take that risk if it means less brown-haired characters for the sake of it. But there's an interesting question, whur the gingers be at? Slate Vesper (talk) 04:58, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Evie possible mention in the Past

Since Evie is a form of the name Eve is it likely that she is the one Thoes Who Came Before were talking about to Aveline de Grandpré when they said find EVE, Eve will lead the way. This could also be why she seems like such a leader. Anyones thoughts on this?

The recording Aveline views is from people living at the time of the First Civ, that elect Eve as the leader of the rebellion. They don't talk about finding Eve. I don't think that particular message has anything to do with Evie Frye. And yeah, Evie is the brains of the Rooks, but it's probably Jacob's charisma that allows them to lead. That's just my guess anyways. Crook The Constantine District 15:40, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Image

Do we really need the same promotional image three times on the page? -- Master Sima Yi Talk 11:53, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

... I guess not >.> I'm deleting a duplicate off Jacob's page as well then though. Crook The Constantine District 12:00, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Evie's Chameleon Power

I have not heard of one person who thinks that this is a good idea, turning your protagonist literally invisable? this will deter social stealth.

What is the logical explanation for it, the animus? Does anyone actually like this?Hassan-i Sabbā (talk) 11:29, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

The logical explanation for it is that she does not turn invisible. Her going translucent is merely a visual indication to communicate to the player that Evie is staying still, controlling her breathing, hiding in the shadows, all that jazz. She is blending with the environment. The "turning invisible" is no different from previous Assassin turning grey when blending with civilians.
Do I like it? Not particularly, but it's an unlockable skill late into the game, so odds are I'll just ignore it like I did with the Disguise ability in Unity. Crook The Constantine District 11:35, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I think Ubisoft just used the wrong word, Evie doesn't turn literally invisible but merely blending in with her environment to the extent that people dont notice her anymore. The website says that a "true Master Assassin" can do this. I also dont like it and even though she doesnt turn invisible, I think that SOMEONE can eventually spot her especially is she's in a not-crowded place full of aware and careful guards. Misphantom (talk) 12:42, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
I feel like it would be alright if the ability only worked at night and in dark places, but apparently it works in daytime as well, which is a bit silly. Crook The Constantine District 12:48, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
Not being racist here, but Evie is also white and i think that white people will have a harder time blending in dark places and shadows. And daytime? Come on, i wonder if Ubisoft will make excuses... I just cant imagine a guard not noticing a suspicious looking lady just crouching still behind a table or something wearing robes and all RIGHT BESIDE HIM Misphantom (talk) 12:59, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
That's why she wears dark clothing ;)
But really, the entire blending mechanic is built upon Willing Suspension of Disbelief. Realistically, Ezio in his Roman robes would easily be picked out of a group of people. Evie staying still and blending with her environment just stretches your disbelief a bit further. Crook The Constantine District 13:04, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Evie's necklace

Hi!

In one of the promotional photos for Syndicate, we can see Evie wearing a necklace, not a normal one, but a Piece of Eden. Maybe it's made from the First Civ metal, and be categorized as a Shard of Eden. To avoid copyright issues and all that, i'll give you the Link to the page: http://www.3djuegos.com/20900/assassins-creed-syndicate/

It's in Spanish, so... look for the part that says "Imagenes de ACS" DipsonDP (talk) 18:26, September 26, 2015 (UTC) 

We already have that image on the wiki. According to Access the Animus, it's a character customization item called Boudicca's Torque (a neck ring belonging to the Iceni queen). I don't think it's a Piece of Eden.--Bovkaffe (talk) 18:58, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Really? It looks so First Civilization though. And Lucy has it for some reason in the Gamescom demo and she's supposed to be the First Civ expert of the British Templars. Crook The Constantine District 22:22, September 26, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah. looks first civ to me. but maybe no. if it is the same necklace's as lucy's wonder how she got it though. ohhh maybe she's evie's descendant.Misphantom (talk) 01:28, September 27, 2015 (UTC)
I'm talking about Lucy Thorne. There's no way she could be Evie's "descendant" because she's probably older than Evie :s Crook The Constantine District 07:38, September 27, 2015 (UTC)
Lol, Crook. I thought it was Lucy Stillman u were talking about XD Misphantom (talk) 12:13, September 27, 2015 (UTC)
Haha, that's why you should read the whole sentence :P Crook The Constantine District 12:24, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Gallery

Tried my hand at editing the tabbed gallery. How does it look with the new additions?

Jetfire343 (talk) 14:19, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jetfire - that strip of bright red is a bit of an awkward choice though. We generally don't have the outfit images on the characters' pages themselves, they'd go on the Assassin's Creed: Syndicate outfits article instead, so we might need to move these. Crook The Constantine District 22:20, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Full name

Do we know Evie's full name? It's possible that her name is just Evie, yes, but do we know if it's short for something? Evelyn? Evangaline? An affectionate spin on Eve or Eva? Yvonne or even Geneva if we're reaching that far? Julia-B184 (talk) 20:02, October 25, 2015 (PST)

To our knowledge her name is just Evie. GamerSophie (talk) 03:28, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Proposal

Okay, I did something on the game after I collected all the flowers and Henry proposed to Evie?! You can watch a video of someone else getting the same thing if you don't believe me! Assassin's Creed Syndicate - Henry proposes to Evie -  GamerSophie (talk) 14:09, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Robe Colors

From the Trivia on the wiki:

  • Evie and Jacob are the third and fourth Assassin protagonists from a main instalment to wear robes whose primary color is not white, the other two being Arno Dorian and Shay Cormac while he was still allied with the Assassins.

Didn't Ezio wear a dark blue / grey robe in Assassin's Creed: Revelations?

128.199.176.29 08:06, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Ezio did wear robes that were mainly white in AC2 and Brotherhood though, so I guess that's why we're not counting him? Crook The Constantine District 08:10, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Blue-eyed Assassin from Brahman

Now that we know that Miss. Evie Frye was in fact Mrs. Evie Mir, I wonder if it can be assumed that the Blue-eyed Assassin ancestor of Monima Das, active at some point between 1839 and 2013, and featured in the Assassin's Creed: Brahman comic is Evie ? Or maybe Henry and Evie's daughter, even if the chances of having a blue-eyed offspring with one of the parents originating from the Indian Subcontinent are very low...Maxattac (talk) 07:59, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

At this point, I'm kind of doubting Ubisoft manages to plan that far ahead, but who knows. There's no definite proof though, so we can't put it in trivia anywhere. Crook The Constantine District 09:37, October 31, 2015 (UTC)
But that person is more or less the descendant of Evie. Henry Green is the only known children of Arbaaz and Pyara so Monima probably comes in Evie's line. Misphantom (talk) 11:14, October 31, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, Evie is most likely in Monima's line, but we have no idea when the blue-eyed Assassin (I doubt it's Evie herself, considering there's no freckles) lived, so she could be a few generations after Evie even. Crook The Constantine District 11:27, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

That woman also appeared in the third issue of The Fall, on the first page, amongst the various Assassin cells that Daniel has visited. See here. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 11:21, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Ancestor of Monima?

Is it really speculation that Evie is an ancestor of Monima? We know Monima is a descendant of Pyara and Arbaaz, and as far as I know, those two only had one child, Henry (The Underworld novel doesn't mention any siblings, does it?). Since Henry obviously hooks up with Evie, it seems only logical to me that the line continued through their child(ren) all the way to Monima. Am I missing something here? :s Crook The Constantine District 11:36, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. Its a huge possibility. Its only a conclusion though and no definite proof. So far we don't have anyone else we can track in Monima's ancestral line. Unless Henry breaks up with Evie in the future and then boom have a set of kids on another girl Misphantom (talk) 11:51, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
We have to assume she and Henry did have children which led to Monima. Where do you think they got Evie's genetic memories from? Unless something freaky happened between the twins... GamerSophie (talk) 14:07, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
I agree it makes complete sense that Evie is Monima's Ancestor, and In fact would be surprised if it were not the case, however for the time being it is speculation. Until such time that someone outright says "Henry and Evie are Monima's Ancestors" it is probably best not to declare it on the page . This is the Same wiki that Says Isabelle Ardant is not dead until proven after all. This is just my 2 cents though. :)

17:14, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

In our defense, I did ask the writer of Syndicate's Modern Day on twitter to clarify whether or not Isabelle actually died, but he wouldn't answer because a lot of people still haven't played the game. I'll bug him about it after Christmas, and maybe we'll get an anwer then. Crook The Constantine District 17:30, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
We need to bug him about Evie being Monima's ancestor to confirm it as well. BUT we can also assume that it's a different ancestor they have gotten the memories from, we can't just think that Evie had one child who had one child who had one child who had one child and so on. GamerSophie (talk) 17:41, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
The only situation I can think of in which Evie is not Monima's ancestor is if Evie and Henry broke up sometime after Syndicate and they both got new lovers. Crook The Constantine District 18:01, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
Concerning Evie's offsprings with Henry, we will probably have more information with the Jack the Ripper DLC, since it has been confirmed that Evie will be the main character. There will probably be an updated database entry about her life added in the extended game.Maxattac (talk) 18:04, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
What happened to the good old days in which not every purposefully-left-vague subject was asked about to the writers? -- Master Sima Yi Talk 18:10, November 7, 2015 (UTC)