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Alexios's birth

Does the game actually date that scene? The novel dates it as the winter of 451 BCE. It’s one of the few dates we actually are explicitly told in the novel.

No, it doesn't, not that scene. But the whole main Naxos-storyline (despite taking place after the Plague of Athens) is explicitly given as 17 years after that incident. If Mt. Taygetos Fall Party happened in 451 BCE, Kassandra would meet Myrrine again in 434 BCE. Sadelyrate (siniath) 17:44, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

JFC do you have the exact quote for that? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:58, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

In-game description of A Mother's Prayers: "After searching through all of the Greek world, Kassandra finally found her mother's trail. Although seventeen years had passed, the time had come to reunite with her in Naxos."

Kassandra parted ways with Myrrine in the Mt.Taygetos Fall Party -> 17 years later, reunited. In addition, surrounding main story events of the 430 BCE Plague of Athens and 428 BCE Olympics force said reunion to be between them.Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:41, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Sal how are you? Daryurian (The Mighty Turian) 06:56, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Just peachy, thanks for asking. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:42, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Images

What happened to those images you added to the articles of two of the mercenaries who were hired by the Order of Hunters? Frontierchris (talk) 21:31, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sadel, Kassandra dealt with the Order of Hunters in 422 BCE, therefore Agis of the North, Gaia the Fist, Theos the Stargazer, and Exadios the Backbreaker were killed that same year. Frontierchris (talk) 21:57, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

As stated already in the articles themselves, images are invalid since the characters are randomly generated, save for their names and locations. Their year of death is also, as far as we can currently tell, 429 BCE, not 422 BCE. Sadelyrate (siniath) 21:58, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

But they were employed by the Order of Hunters, and like I said, Kassandra didn't face them until 422 BCE. Frontierchris (talk) 22:01, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Proof of this date? Sadelyrate (siniath) 22:06, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Do you have proof that she faced the Order of Hunters in 429 BCE? Frontierchris (talk) 22:08, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

The whole DLC-questline begins with receiving the summons right after the main Naxos-storyline, in 429 BCE. I ask again: your proof for 422 BCE? Sadelyrate (siniath) 22:10, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Oh my mistake, what about the Order of the Storm? Frontierchris (talk) 22:13, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

What about them? Sadelyrate (siniath) 22:17, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Did Kassandra face them in that same year? Frontierchris (talk) 22:18, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Tisandros and Polemion are not ranbomized, Thaletas said those were their names. --Frontierchris (talk) 15:35, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

Tisandros and Polemion are not ranbomized, Thaletas said those were their names. Don’t you get all the information before you accept the quest? --Frontierchris (talk) 15:36, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

Pagans

What do you mean “incorrect term?” --Frontierchris (talk) 23:01, March 18, 2019 (UTC)

'Pagan' does not mean 'people who believe in multiple gods'. It is also biased term, and as such, has no place in this wiki. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:09, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

What is the correct term for 'people who believe in multiple gods'? Frontierchris (talk) 17:51, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

Simple: polytheists. From Greek polytheos meaning 'of many gods', from polys ('many') + theos ('god'). Trick here is that not every ancient Greek or person who lived in Egypt was polytheist, just like not every person who lives in Italy is Catholic. Before you make such suggestion, make sure you can back your claim. Sadelyrate (siniath) 18:23, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

DISPLAYTITLE bug

Sadelyrate, I have been doing some extra digging and have managed to identify the cause of the DISPLAYTITLE bug that has been plaguing certain users (including yourself) of late. The cause is a compatibility issue between DISPLAYTITLE and Fandom's "Classic rich text editor." I am liaising with Fandom Staff on a permanent fix, but in the meantime a workaround would be for you to change your Prefered editor to either Source mode or VisualEditor. You can do this by following this link ot your Preferences and making the change there. Thanks. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:50, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Was wondering about that. Thanks for clearing that up! Sadelyrate (siniath) 15:55, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Removed citations to the Odyssey website & commas

Hey Sadel, two matters have come to my attention. The first is that I've only recently noticed that when Assassin's Creed: Odyssey was released, you seemed to have changed all citations I made to Ubisoft's official website on the game to the game itself. This is actually incorrect because many of the information that referenced the site is not provided in the game itself and is exclusive to the website. While the website will inevitably be shutdown once their marketing period for the game is over, this does not change the fact that it would be false to cite many of these lines I have written to the game itself.

The other is that I heard that you continue to add commas where they are not supposed to be and/or remove commas where they are supposed to present. I haven't had the time to look through your edit history to verify if this is true or not, but I had asked before if you needed help understanding proper grammatical usage of commas because I understand that that can be confusing, and it's clear that you are struggling with it. :-/ Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 12:24, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

I've removed citations to the site only when the same information is present in the game itself. With commas I've followed the guidelines you laid out earlier, and the example you set out with edits.

ETA: I see you've changed your mind about whether there should be a comma or not after a phrase beginning with "during". Sadelyrate (siniath) 12:32, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

I have not changed my mind. My previous correction involved the cases where you placed commas before "during" when such a clause came at the end of the sentence. This is called a subordinating clause. However, when the subordinating clause comes at the beginning of the sentence, there has to be a comma after the clause. This is the rule. Subordinating clauses are not preceded by commas if they come at the end of the sentence, but they are followed by commas if they come at the beginning of the sentence.

As for the citations, the few examples I encountered were better cited to the site than the game since it was expressly taken from there where such information was given in precise terms, not from the game where the information is only implied or generalized at best. I need to search for the specific examples again. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 13:00, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

And yet, there were numerous edits made by you specifically to remove the commas following, say, "During the Peloponnesian War". My apologies for the possible fudging of citations; that was certainly not my intention. Sadelyrate (siniath) 13:05, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

You would have to provide some hard proof on that because I am very skeptical I would ever suggest that commas have to be removed after that phrase.

Found the main example: Megaris. You're actually right that the area being a strategic narrow corridor highly contested by the Spartans and Athenians is well supported enough by the game itself since the game did expressly describe it as such. However, the line about its economy being heavily reliant on pig farming and pottery is more implied by the game from the presence of pigs and the characters' comments about it being a city of pigs, and even then, I don't recall the game referring to pottery as a staple of its economy. In any case, I would need to double-check all the other articles. If it is true that you were careful with it, then I appreciate it. If it turns out you were a bit careless, then I still appreciate the effort. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 13:09, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

I found one example in regards to the comma correction: the article Lamia. Here when I left an edit summary explaining why I removed a comma, I was referring to "village, and explored". This was during the period where I was correcting most of your punctuation, and I specifically kept the comma after "During the Peloponnesian War" as is grammatically proper. I don't mean to hack away at you, it's just that I want to make sure we're on the same page about this. I understand that honest mistakes happen, and you were only trying to follow my instructions, and there seemed to have been some miscommunication about it. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 13:18, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

RE:Italicization apostrophes

The standard is always, without exception, that when italicizing a linked word, the apostrophes go on the outside, around the whole thing unless one is italicizing individual parts of the linked term. Even if you are changing the way the link appears through piping, the apostrophes go on the outside of the link. For example:

• ''[[Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood]]'' for Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
• [[Venator-class Star Destroyer|''Venator''-class Star Destroyer]] for Venator-class Star Destroyer
• ''[[mercenary|misthios]]'' for misthios
• ''[[courtesan|hetaera]]'' for hetaera

All those instances of [[Courtesan|''hetaera'']] are in error. That 'mercenary' and 'courtesan' should not be italicized is irrelevant because in the final product, they don't appear in the text; essentially, those words aren't even being used in the actual writing, only the coding. Of course, whether you place the apostrophes inside the brackets or outside doesn't affect the outcome—either way the word is italicized. The only reason why putting the apostrophes on the outside matter is because this is the standard convention across all wikis that I know of, at least the biggest ones, and Wikipedia itself. So it's just a matter of consistency and clean formatting for the editors in the editing screen. It's for the same reason that we don't normally use <i></i> unless we have to.

I'm not sure if you missed my reply to you on my talk page, but please begin correcting all cases of misplacement of the apostrophes when you encounter them. You don't have to go out of your way to hunt them down; I won't want you to go through so much trouble, but you should be correcting them when you do come across them, not leaving them. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 02:11, April 16, 2019 (UTC)