What I'm really interested to find out is exactly what stage in the French Revolution ACU will be set in, because the French Revolution could, in it's broadest sense, mean any time from the Estates-General to the Napoleon's coup.
What I'm really interested to find out is exactly what stage in the French Revolution ACU will be set in, because the French Revolution could, in it's broadest sense, mean any time from the Estates-General to Napoleon's coup, or even, arguably, Napoleon's overthrow.
While, yes, the obvious choice is =< 1789 - 1792, Robespierre and the Jacobins seem to me to be much more Templar material than Louis XVI or most representatives of the Ancien Regime. Louis XVI was, when it comes down to it, just an unlucky fella with the wrong job, the wrong education for that job, an infectiously unpopular wife, and probable (i.e. posthumously diagnosed) chronic depression. Robespierre, on the other hand, was deliberately heavy-handed, strident, not to mention increasingly power-drunk and at times teetered on the verge of self-worship. [[Special:Contributions/109.149.91.2|109.149.91.2]] 19:42, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
While, yes, the obvious choice is =< 1789 - 1792, Robespierre and the Jacobins seem to me to be much more Templar material than Louis XVI or most representatives of the Ancien Regime. Louis XVI was, when it comes down to it, just an unlucky fella with the wrong job, the wrong education for that job, an infectiously unpopular wife, and probable (i.e. posthumously diagnosed) chronic depression. Robespierre, on the other hand, was deliberately heavy-handed, strident, not to mention increasingly power-drunk and at times teetered on the verge of self-worship. [[Special:Contributions/109.149.91.2|109.149.91.2]] 19:42, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
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According to some rumors, (which should be taken with a light grain of salt), the future of Assassin's Creed has been rescoped and sounds very exciting. I can't wait.
"Assassin's Creed V has been in the development cycle for almost three years, at Ubisoft Montreal and Ubisoft Toronto with development support from Ubisoft studios at Annecy, Quebec and Montpellier. Assassin's Creed V will release on the PlayStation®4 from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft and Windows PC. The game will release worldwide on November 4, 2014.
In the events of the ongoing Industrial Revolution, Assassin's Creed V follows the story of Samuel Fey, as he enters the Assassin Order in a time of change and Templar rule. Fey is a successful and respectful entrepreneur, who works outside the corrupt law to guarantee the security of his own and others' futures. Taking place during the closing years of the Industrial Revolution in Victorian London, players will explore all new locales as they uncover the truth behind the hidden ongoing rebellion."
"Great Fall" has been proven to be fan-made. Also, don't forget to sign your posts. Stormbeast♉The Helpful Place 20:57, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
I understand that, but that was just for heading purposes. The news release posted above is a seperate rumor. EDIT: I renamed the post, to clear any confusion xD XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 21:02, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
Also, there are rumors that New-Gen will be getting it's own game, while Last-Gen will be receiving another one. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 22:12, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
If X360, PS3 and PC are due to get a game now, I don't believe it will be a main one in the series – at the most, it will be a side game like Recollection or Pirates is. After all, I don't think Ubi will want to split their playerbase like Black Flag again, although that was only due to the release of the "current"-gen consoles.
Personally, I think AC5 is going to be pure "current"-gen just to keep the flow of the titled games going, as well as encourage more buyers for the platform. I hope the multiplayer portion is greatly rescoped. I would really like the passion in editing that part of the Wiki articles to come back. Right now, it's stuck on the point of knowing another game will come and steal the focus away, as well as the generally uninspiring direction it is going, that doesn't allow me to actively want to pick up the controller and play. Slate Vesper (talk) 00:23, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by current-gen, because many people still refer to the PS3 and current-gen. In my opinion, Ubisoft is putting all their focus on new-gen (PS4, Xbox One). They have already stated that the next Assassin's Creed will undergo a massive rescope and be a "true next-gen" game.
About the multiplayer, I've felt like they almost NEED a co-op element to the single-player. I can only imagine free-running around a huge open world map with 3 of my friends.
Also, the newfound focus on stealth and combat is exciting. Could we be seeing AC finally recognizing it's best path, not as a Prince of Persia spin-off but as a stealth-based series? THAT is exciting. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 01:24, March 1, 2014 (UTC)File:1901520 630093483712635 1508014974 n.jpgACV Leaked Picture.
So here's a leaked picture of Ubisoft's Montreal studio courtesy of the UBI Forums. It's definitely not Edward or any of the previous Assassins. It COULD be something small like a new comic, but I highly doubt that they'd have a full-blown poster in the major studio about it.
With that out of the way, the robe's fashion look about Victorian England-ish. Plus, it's black! That'd be a refreshing change. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 02:30, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
File:Foldable-dagger-pepperbox-knuckle-duster.jpgHidden Blade - RevolverThe revolver, I just noticed thanks to those in the UBI Forums, has a strikingly similar design to this bad boy. Apparently, this revolver was designed for the Apache gang of Navajos by the French.
In ACIV, the Navajos are referred to as a group of anti-Nazis. This might be a coincidence, but it's very exciting.
Backing up these theories are various "leaks" and rumors that the new AC will be "massively rescoped" and will take place in France and England.
For the multiplayer portion, there are rumors that Ubisoft has scrapped the competitive multiplayer completely, in exchange for a single player co-op.
Further more, other rumors suggest that the protagonist will be the leader of the French divison of Assassins, and that he'll be able to manage his city through his villa.
As exciting as all of this is, these rumors should be taken with a grain of salt. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 02:47, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
More rumors / leaks. This rumor came from the major French news website GameBlog. According to close sources to them (translation may not be 100% accurate on my part):
ACV will take place in the French Revolution and some other unspecified time period / region.
The main character is named Arno. The name is of Germanic origin, and uncoincidentally means eagle.
One of the new weapons in the game will be metal gloves.
The game will be reserved for the new-gen consoles: PS4 and Xbox One. (No mention of a PC port at all).
There will be co-op missions within the single-player campaign.
One of the taglines for the marketing of ACV will be; "Liberty is written in blood."
Seems interesting. So far it seems we have rumours of France and England. I wouldn't mind either, personally. Could be that Ubisoft is in the works of both of those, considering they put a few years into each one. Honestly I'm more excited about the co-op missions that've been mentioned. I've always preferred a good co-op game over multiplayer, and it'll be interesting to see exactly how they can pull it off, if they decide to go that direction. Regardless, I hope we get an announcement or even a major leak soon. Elder-Fan (talk) 13:30, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
If they're going to do co-op, I want it to be something like utilizing contracts for Assassin recruits as playable missions for you and a partner, which depending on your performance could increase or decrease your chances of success, but also the difficulty affecting guard rates etc.
Having an over the shoulder helper, or another character on screen to drag the camera away from the main protagonist's playtime is an inconvenience that demerits co-operative play. The story portion of Assassin's Creed has been about the protagonist's development and progression, so I'd prefer the main bulk of the game to cater to a solo player, with the co-op elements being useful in extraneous circumstances. A good example of this is Black Flag's companion app for smartphones and tablets, because it gives another person the opportunity of fun in securing your trade routes and fighting ships to earn you money while you focus on the main missions. Slate Vesper (talk) 00:23, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Slate, I doubt that they'd add couch co-op. If they were going to add co-op, it'd possibly only be online. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 01:01, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps, but with many fans shouting "we want co-op!", Ubisoft might not know how to approach the implementation in a way that pleases everybody, and may just cater to the majority because "the majority knows best", despite some people who originally asked for it growing frustrated with those elements later down the line. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:10, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
If done correctly,(which is a matter of POV, like you said), it'd be a great addition to the franchise. I remember that I easily got bored with naval after I finished ACIV; but imagine your buddies manning your swivel guns and boarding ships with you.
To make the game more difficult, (as opposed to easier), Ubisoft would implement a Borderlands-esque system in which you'd have to kill more enemies to accomodate for every person in your game. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 01:14, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
That comes with the increased risk of desynchronization if missions call for it, and I doubt I'd like to play through my main story with 3 other players trying to hijack the progression or throwing off my focus. Isolated cases, such as a randomly generated Assassin recruit contract mission, still allows for multiple players in an instance, without disrupting the main objective of the game. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:31, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Fair point, but you're forgetting that they would most likely give you the option to disable co-op entirely, or just invite your friends when you'd like it. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 01:35, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
And to elaborate on your idea; can you imagine a seamless online / single-player experience with Assassination contracts? For example, I'm playing the main missions, but in between I decide to do a contract. As soon as I accept, a few other people online are hunting the same contract. Whoever reaches the contract first gets the rewards.
Yes, it'd need a seperate combat system from the main story (perhaps), but it'd be exhilarating. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 01:52, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
First part: You also raise a good point, but I was mainly referring to a co-op element in the game for the front room (or elsewhere) with another person present, shying away from a co-op that wasn't just a collection of solo players grouped online.
Second part: I could see it working in the sense that you can choose between random players or friends, with it being on a seperate "coop" to the main story missions, or perhaps accessed through the same spot but the division of "main story" contracts and competitive contracts.
However, I've been describing my idea of "co-op" in the perspective of ACB and ACR's Assassin recruit contracts where you can assign people to missions and gain an estimated percentage, but the suggestion enters where you can choose another option that would allow you to enter a mission in progress/just beginning and manually complete the contract for extra reward, more exp, or certain collectibles with computer AI running through scheduled processes (from this checkpoint, CPU goes to guard to kill -> success/fail, if aided then increased chance of success) or friends taking up the other positions. The only flaw in this idea is that the game may not introduce Assassin recruits at all, given Edward's well received response despite him only becoming an ally of the Assassins towards AC4's end. Slate Vesper (talk) 02:12, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Again, excellent points. But the way I'd imagine co-op is (different modes):
Integration w/ Single-Player (4-player cap)
You would be able to participate in the whole single-player experience with friends (Story missions, Free-roaming, Assassin Hideouts / Forts), no detractions . Each player would see themselves as the main character, and the other friends would look like random Assassins from the Brotherhood.
Adding other characters with narratives to be controlled would distract from the main over-all game.
Competitive Activites via Seamless Solo-To-Online
Basically the situation I described on top describing the Assassination contract. Add in some other activities such as: board games (Chess, Checkers, etc), fight clubs, etc.
I swear,if there's no PC port, I will kill myself<theproclamation> (talk) 03:26, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
There's rumors that there will be a seperate game for PS3, Xbox 360, and PC. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 03:33, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
A completely different game? Not. Cool.<theproclamation> (talk) 04:05, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
These leaks/rumors/theories are getting stupider by the day. I get it, you people are desperate and need your game news fix like crack junkies, but calm down already. Co-op in AC, yeah no, not gonna happen. Console only with no PC version? Why? Why would they do that when every single main game to date was on the PC as well? This isn't 2000 anymore, with companies tentatively poking the PC market with a stick for reaction. Metal Gloves? We already had cestus in AC2/BH, nothing new. Revolution -and- some other setting? Not gonna happen, Ubi constrains ACs to one setting and time period per game. That one alone should be enough to show those rumors are BS written by some disgruntled fanboys. --Kainzorus PrimeWalkie-talkie 10:59, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Cause change is impossible? (Especially after Ubisoft themselves that they are rescoping the franchise?)
Ubisoft held a poll that had a question of single-player co-op in it. Plus, they've been dipping into those waters with Wolf Pack. At this point, it's beyond ignorant to say that it's "not gonna happen."
Why would they make a new-gen only game? To help sale and establish the PS4 and Xbox One. Plus, they're PC ports have NEVER been good and often delayed, so they'd be wise to give up on it. Yeah, this isn't the 2000s anymore. It's 2014, an age of horrible PC ports and sometimes complete avoidance of PC for video games. GTA V is the most recent example.
You're right about the metal gloves, so I'm not sure where that came in.
Multiple time-periods would be exciting. For example, France in the Fr. Rev. and then France and England in the Ind. Rev. This would be the perfect example of a "rescope".
"That one alone should be enough to show those rumors are BS written by some disgruntled fanboys." Perhaps it is all BS, but it's also possible that it could happen. At this point, where we know barely anything of this game, it's ignorant to say that it will never happen.
Yeah, I'd rather play a "kinda buggy" PC port of AC, than none at all.<theproclamation> (talk) 15:28, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Also Kain's comment on fanboy's "needing their fix" is an insult to devoted fans worldwide.<theproclamation> (talk) 15:31, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Get over yourself. You've grown accustomed to yearly releases of titles with less than a year of development cycle. Me personally, I can do with a break from AC every year, and give them time to make things of the scope of AC2 again. You're complaining about buggy ports, which I never experienced personally, sans AC4 running at abysmal framerates maybe - what did you expect, when again, the games have less than a year of development time. --Kainzorus PrimeWalkie-talkie 16:01, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Excuse me? I have only recently been re-introduced to the series, and I was not complaining about the PC versions. The games are still astonishingly good for only a year's dev time, and framerate is almost never a problem for me.<theproclamation> (talk) 17:09, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
We've definitely become accustomed to yearly releases, as well as announcements in early March, which is why I think there's this huge backlash and tension, especially as there's the (slim) possibility of there being no AC this year (Ubi's a business, businesses milk success, and AC is a success, so I doubt it). Even if there isn't one though, I'd still like Ubi to come out and say that there won't be one; it'll stop all this agitation and itching for the next game. So until there is an announcement, either of a game or that there will be no game, I feel I can keep myself satisfied with other games (Titanfall, anyone?) as well as a fanon idea I have been working on. - kabutsuEnter the AnimusThe Crimson PollsII 17:29, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
One of the Devs said if the next AC is mediocre, they will delay future releases.<theproclamation> (talk) 17:48, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Kain, I do NOT like yearly releases. At all. You preach that you want them to get the series back to the scope of AC2, yet you blatantly state that "Ubisoft won't do this, these ideas are fanboyish."
You speak to me as if you were attacking me. I'm a fellow AC fan, nothing more.
I repost various rumors and "leaks" because I'd like to spark up some discussions in this wiki. Not because, "they're totally possible".
Would the Fr. Rev. be a good idea? It'd be a fantastic idea.
Is it impossible or even unlikely that Ubisoft goes after any of these ideas, especially co-op? Not at all. Like I said before, they've been exploring co-op for a good amount of years.
Plus, the development for each AC game is in cycles; this results in 2 years of development time, not half a year. One team at Montreal is focused on a game, and another team is focused on another game. So what you said is not true.
Do I agree with this method? Heck no. I, too, would like to see a huge group work on a sole AC title like with AC: II.
Plus, I have a username just like you. So I'd prefer that you didn't refer to me as "the other guy" please. Again, no disrespect, but it seems like you're attacking me. I apologize if I misunderstood your approach.
Various highly-credible leaks from NeoGAF and Examiner (who have been extremely accurate on Ubisoft-related leaks) have pointed to Assassin's Creed Unity:
It takes place in the French Revolution, and has four-player co-op ("no, never going to happen.") Previous rumors were supposedly correct: the protagonist is called Arno and the game is for PS4 and Xbox One only. There is a new navigation system for free-running, as shown by the Parkour Up + Down buttons in the overlay.
Assassin's Creed: Comet (Codename)
Also, Assassin's Creed Comet will be another main-entry into the franchise this year:
Its for the PS3 and Xbox 360 only but not much is known about it so far.
Yeah, extremely cool! But I'm pretty sure that Ubisoft won't kill off its PC fans, regardless what I said earlier. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 19:10, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
Update: PC versions are expected for BOTH of the entries. Also, it seems like Ubisoft is getting ready to announce them tomorrow (according to their Facebook page) XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 19:16, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
There is also the idea that the new player is actually Connor taking Lafeyette's offer and coming to France. It would be amazing to see Connor fight two Revolutions--74.75.69.197 02:22, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
I am confused about two games being released in one year.
I am desperatly confused about something regarding the names of both of these games. Sorry if this is confusing.
Here we have one protagonist, setting and time period confirmed (which i am very excited about) but there are going to be two releases this year (so rummered).
A new story, time period and protagonist is a new numbered title, hence why AC4 Black Flag had a NUMBERED title to it because it featured a new protagonist, story and different time period (age of piracy). As we all know AC Revelations had the same character and time period (Itailian Renisense) but a different setting still it was not a numbered title.
My point is if we see both of these games being in different time periods with different protagonists they will still be connected in one way or the other, If they are not connected then why would they not be both titled? to see AC5 and AC6 release in the same year will be utterly ludercris and crazy.Finn Auditore (talk) 00:49, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
Well, the point is Ubi wants the money from both Last-gen and current gen. If they release the same game for both gens, it wouls result in a serious backlash because of having to sacrifice graphics. But at the same time, if they go for one gen only, then they are abandoning the money from another gen. So to get all of our money, they are doing this. Wolfenstein ~ The Hidden Den 02:37, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
I have no problem with it because I own a PS4, PS3 & Xbox 360. So I'll get both games. I wonder if they'll release at the same time. Outsider (talk) 16:21, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
Speculation on a possibility of both games being the same
If we step back for a second and think, maybe it's possible comet is a descaled version of unity?
(Long time reader first time blogger, nice to meet you all)
I highly doubt it. Unity would just be announced for all consoles. XX-w0lf f4ngs-X (talk) 20:29, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
AC Comit is English
I read from a random gaming website I was linked to from Kotaku, that Commit is about an English Assassin named Samuel Fey who is a very rich man who had joined the Assassin Brotherhood while Templar's were at their most powerful - 1800's. Maybe Samuel and Arno work together? Maybe they each have a stand-alone game but merge together in Arno's game for that certain part of the game thats someplace different. Just what I've read & my thoughts :) (110.32.119.73 09:04, March 20, 2014 (UTC))
Time period
What I'm really interested to find out is exactly what stage in the French Revolution ACU will be set in, because the French Revolution could, in it's broadest sense, mean any time from the Estates-General to Napoleon's coup, or even, arguably, Napoleon's overthrow.
While, yes, the obvious choice is =< 1789 - 1792, Robespierre and the Jacobins seem to me to be much more Templar material than Louis XVI or most representatives of the Ancien Regime. Louis XVI was, when it comes down to it, just an unlucky fella with the wrong job, the wrong education for that job, an infectiously unpopular wife, and probable (i.e. posthumously diagnosed) chronic depression. Robespierre, on the other hand, was deliberately heavy-handed, strident, not to mention increasingly power-drunk and at times teetered on the verge of self-worship. 109.149.91.2 19:42, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
