Talk:American Rite of the Templar Order

Moving page

If this page will survive extermination, I propose that we SHALL move this page to the main Templar page unless we will make other Templar branches... Is anybody with me? Before we proceed to voting, I must hear you opinions...

Cheers,

AgentG231 ^{The Action Center} 10:59, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Separate articles with what little info we got on 'em. Altaïr Skywalker 47 (talk) 11:03, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

If we had little info on this article, we must merge it as it is worthless to have a stand alone  page seperated from the mainstream page.. -- AgentG231 ^{The Action Center} 11:11, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

We don't have to merge anything. The Colonial Rite is one of the few Templar factions to be clearly defined as an autonomous, nearly separate entity; it's just that the Assassins have more. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:14, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Personally I think it's a good idea to keep pages like this open and on the wiki.  Also gives people a list of who was a Templar for Templar rites and/or Assassin brotherhood bracnhes.  It makes sense so why delete it? (M4 C-Corp (talk) 19:42, October 18, 2013 (UTC))

Colonial Rite v. Colonial Templars

The article is at "Colonial Rite" because that is what they are officially called; if the Colonial Assassins had an official designation, something like the "Brotherhood of the Colonies", that is where they would be. As it stands, the only reason Caribbean Templars is named a such, is because there is no evidence to suggest they were a self-sustaining Rite in the same aspect as Haytham's group.

EDIT: Likewise, the "Japanese Assassins" are listed as the Onmoraki-Gumi, since that particular branch has an "official" designation. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps, Jasca. But when you consider that "Colonial Rite of the Templar Order" is essentially "Colonial Templars" in a longwinded form, wouldn't it just make sense to shorten it down for simplicity's sake? Slate Vesper (talk) 00:29, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

What does simplicity have to do with it? "Colonial Templars" is a redirect, so there is no reason not to have the article under it's proper name. For simplicity's sake I would argue we can shorten the Ezio Auditore da Firenze articl... --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:12, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

James Wardrop, Samuel Smith and Lawrence Washington aren't Colonial Templars

I think we can't technically consider Wardrop, Smith and Washington Colonial Templars, because they died years before the Colonial Rite was founded by Haytham Kenway. They can be considered agents of the British Rite.

Lorenzo.ladogana (talk) 00:36, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

I was just coming here to point out the very same thing... I totally agree; from what the letters say they were apart of Birch's rite and died before Haytham officially founded the Colonial Rite. Lord Vespasian (talk) 15:57, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

American Rite 1782

Did Shay really establish the American Rite in 1782, or was that just something that someone threw in that the editors missed? Its there in the intro paragraph at the start of the page, in case anyone else misses it.71.168.172.30 06:47, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Slate added that particular sentence, though I must confess that I'm not sure why he has done so. Beyond Shay's ending monologue in Rogue (which actually took place in 1776) where he declares himself a member of the "American Rite", there is nothing to suggest Shay actually set up any such group. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:56, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Considering the memory's date being 1776, I'm now torn on what to think. On the one hand, the American Colonies had just gone into their own Revolutionary War, and yet there were Templars around up until the end of it. On the other had, Shay was one of the most notable Templars, didn't die (so we know of), and expressed his desire to reforge the Colonial Rite into something different. What to do? Slate Vesper (talk) 11:35, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Well it makes sense that since the Revolutionary War is to seperate the English Colonies from England, technically, that makes them newfounded Americans. With this, both the Colonial Templars and Assassins aren't Colonial anymore, but shifted into the American Branch/Rite.  Like Connor would no longer consider the Order here Colonial, but American since the country is its own power now, and he's been fighting to help with the seperation too. Haytham wanted to see the seperation as well. What did Shay do after the war is unknown. Hell, I'm surprised he didn't hunt Connor after 1776 being the Assassin Hunter and all that.71.168.172.30 19:30, August 9, 2015 (UTC)