Talk:Abstergo Industries

About the history section

I just played one of the Subject 16, cluster 5. Throughout the puzzle, there are clues that abstergo influenced events in Iran, Chile, and Argentina in the 1950s to 1970s. They put pictures and such. It is appropriate to keep this info on this page? If so, your'll welcome to expand or fix the information. I have trouble with the citations since I'm a rookie. Tseantan 22:57, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Btw, Tseantan, links ar made with double brackets ([[article name link]]), not keys ({{article WRONG!}}) ;D -- D. Cello 22:58, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

W.: concerning Iraq.

Could W. possibly mean George W. Bush?, I may just be speculating but that ties in with real life affairs, such as the invasion etc.

Duh. 98.192.42.30 21:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

contradiction over abstergo's public nature

In Brotherhood, one of the Clusters had a telephone conversation featuring a man who found out about Abstergo and was going to write a book about them. He says that they are a shadow corporation that isn't publicly traded and who's members even have ties to the government and Wall Street. Pretty much, their existence is a secret. But in the first game, isn't it explicitly mentioned a number of times that they are a well known pharmaceutical company that makes anti-depressants amongst other things. They are under investigation for the who New Fluoride incident (try investigating a company that "doesn't exist". I bet ya can't), and the person who witnessed the Denver massacre said that he saw the name and the logo. So they are either a shadow company who's name isn't even known to the public, or they are on the surface a pharmaceutical/technology corporation. Which is it?Son of God-Enel 03:54, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think somewhere along the lines, I got the impression that they were a "non-existant" shadow corporation, but later kind of subtly emerged publicly as a major economic power. But that's probably just me, assuming it even makes sense. 98.192.42.30 17:48, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

As a matter of a fact there are some of those "shadow corporations" already in existence. Ever heard of Unilever ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unilever_brands) it's a perfect example: everybody knows it's products, but hardly anyone knows that they are somehow connected - by a "umbrella brand". There are many others as well. In reality our whole market is being controlled by a handfull of those brands. So the idea of a single very powerful but relatively unknown brand (Abstergo) might seem quite creepy, but it corresponds to our current situation. LaNeve 15:35, August 6, 2011 (MEZ)

F

The agent 'F' is most likely Milton Friedman, nobel laureate economist and staunch supporter of lasseiz-faire style market capitalism. Friedmen basically drove the neoliberal revolution in the latter half of the 20th century, driving economic policy away from Keynesian to more liberal - the most prominent is the economic reform of Chile. Pinochet, Thatcher, Reganm and Xiaoping are all examples of neoliberal politicians

Uh, no. Don't forget to sign your posts. Guardian Assassin 04:49, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ah...my mistake, I see what you're getting at. Different F. Guardian Assassin 08:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Italian Facility

In the gallery, the picture of the facility featured in the games is currently captioned "Animus room, Florence Facility". Is there a source on the exact location of the facility in Italy? 98.192.42.30 17:52, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the modern day storyline takes place in Italy. And as said in Brotherhood, they couldn't flee across Italy's border as Abstergo would find them. If you look at the windows in the first Assassin's Creed and Assassin's Creed II, you'll see that it looks exactly like Florence. Also, I'm 99,9% sure that Ubisoft themselves confirmed that particular facility is in Florence; I believe in a blog post on the official Brotherhood website, they I can't recall which one. -- Master Sima Yi 19:19, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I was aware that it was set in Italy. And I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about; unfortunately, this was all I could find when I Googled it, but I know that there was more, because I remember them saying that there were hints in the first two games. Couldn't find it on the official site, either. In any case, all I remember reading was that it was in general Italy, with no mention of what city. And I'm not saying you're wrong, but all I can see through the windows in AC1 and AC2 is white light and the very vague forms of some surrounding buildings. No distinctive details. Maybe it's just me. 98.192.42.30 21:08, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well? Guardian Assassin 04:29, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Vault

Abstergo's symbol is also in the walls of the vault, along with the assassin symbol and I'm pretty sure I also saw the templar cross. If anyone has a doubt check the Vault page, it says so in the Trivia section.

AlexArkham 03:13, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

I've never seen those outside the Vault, either. Guardian Assassin 04:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Except maybe the cross. Guardian Assassin 04:28, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, then, I'll just go replay the first mission of ACB and then upload the picture. Once I have it, I'll edit it again.

AlexArkham 15:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that that's certafiably an Abstergo logo. Yes, there's a resemblance, but no, it's not definate. Guardian Assassin 22:40, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Religion.

Atheism isn't a religion. I suggest altering it to "None (Atheist)". CryptoKiller 10:16, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Some people simply do think it as a religion, some people don't. Google it, there's multiple opinions on it, so there's no real need to change it. UDITORE 10:19, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Abstergo - Johnson and Johnson

The real life pharmaceutical Company, Johnson & Johnson, has a lot in common with abstergo.

One of the biggest international pharmaceutical companies in the world.

Over 230 subsidiary holdings.

Uses the Red Cross as their company Symbol. (J&J does; Abstergo doesn't, but the Red Cross is the symbol used by the Templars.)

J&J are the Templars and the Carpenters are the Assassin's. This is just a joke, but I do fine it pretty interesting.-- SomeGuy 19:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)