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Doing away with the table for now. The complication with coding it proved to be counter-productive and defeated the purpose of using a table to make the process of figuring out the Odyssey "canon" easier.
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==Novel==
==Timeline==
===Novel===
Exact years are never given, only a sequence of seasons.
Exact years are never given, only a sequence of seasons.
*Winter 451 BCE – Kassandra and Alexios are thrown off Mt. Taygetos<ref name="Prologue">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – Prologue</ref>  
*Winter 451 BCE – Kassandra and Alexios are thrown off Mt. Taygetos<ref name="Prologue">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – Prologue</ref>  
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Of particular note is that both the game and the novel bring up the Mytilenean revolt, and Kleon plotting to get the Athenians to vote on massacring the Mytilenians as though this is just about to happen when Kassandra escapes from jail. Historically, this occurred in 427 BCE, before the Battle of Pylos.
Of particular note is that both the game and the novel bring up the Mytilenean revolt, and Kleon plotting to get the Athenians to vote on massacring the Mytilenians as though this is just about to happen when Kassandra escapes from jail. Historically, this occurred in 427 BCE, before the Battle of Pylos.


==History==
===History===
*431 BCE – Beginning of the Peloponnesian War
*431 BCE – Beginning of the Peloponnesian War
*430 BCE – Plague of Athens
*430 BCE – Plague of Athens
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*416 BCE – Athens destroy Melos
*416 BCE – Athens destroy Melos


==Game==
===Game===
*431 BCE – Start of the story
*431 BCE – Start of the story
*Myrinne asks Kassandra to visit Pythagoras before returning to Sparta.
*Myrinne asks Kassandra to visit Pythagoras before returning to Sparta.
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Game guide suggests an order of Arkadia > Boeotia > Elis
Game guide suggests an order of Arkadia > Boeotia > Elis


==Cyfiero==
===Cyfiero===
My initial suggestion back in 2021:
My initial suggestion back in 2021:
*Perikles' death – 429 BCE
*Perikles' death – 429 BCE
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*Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia & discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist – Summer 421 BCE
*Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia & discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist – Summer 421 BCE


==Nstav==
===Nstav===
Argued for Arkadia (spring) > Elis (summer) > Boeotia (autumn) based on the apparent seasons when you visit them in the game. I later pointed out that I cannot find evidence of Boeotia being set in the autumn when I revisited the location and that the Odyssey website describes Boeotia as summer.
Argued for Arkadia (spring) > Elis (summer) > Boeotia (autumn) based on the apparent seasons when you visit them in the game. I later pointed out that I cannot find evidence of Boeotia being set in the autumn when I revisited the location and that the Odyssey website describes Boeotia as summer.


==References==
==References==
{{Reflist}}
{{Reflist}}

Revision as of 20:47, 20 July 2023

Timeline

Novel

Exact years are never given, only a sequence of seasons.

  • Winter 451 BCE – Kassandra and Alexios are thrown off Mt. Taygetos[1]
  • Spring 431|430 BCE[2] – Kephallonia (Peloponnesian War is known to have already started[3])
  • Spring to Summer (at least 1 month) – Megaris
  • June 431|430 BCE– Kirrha
  • Summer 431|430 BCE– Delphi
  • Summer 431|430 BCE– Thermopylae (after sailing all the way around Greece from Kirrha)
  • Summer 431|430 BCE– Athens 1st time
  • Summer 431|430 BCE– Argos
  • Autumn 431|430 BCE– Korinth
  • Winter 431|430 BCE – Kassandra scours the Cyclades but fails to find her mother (Xenia is cut from the book)
  • Summer 430|429 BCE – return to Athens in the midst of the Plague, Perikles is already dying but gets assassinated.

1 year later...

  • Summer 429|428 BCE – Kassandra reunites with Myrinne in Naxos
  • Autumn 429|428 BCE – Return to Sparta
  • Winter 429|428 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
  • Spring (4 years since the war began) 428/427 BCE – Kassandra in Boeotia, Myrinne & Brasidas deal with Lagos in Arkadia

After Myrinne kills Lagos, only 6 Cultists remain, including Pausanias and Kleon but excluding Deimos and Aspasia.

  • Spring or Summer 428/427 BCE – Pausanias is exposed as a Cultist and "killed" off-screen
  • Autumn 428|427 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
  • Winter 428|427 BCE – Kassandra trains Testikles
  • Spring 427|426 BCE – Brasidas marches off to Pylos while Kassandra and Testikles sails to Elis
  • Summer 427|426 BCE – Kassandra at the Olympics, Brasidas trapped on Sphacteria, Kassandra goes to rescue him upon being done with the Olympics
  • Autumn 427|426 BCE – Kassandra and other Spartan POWs are transported across Greece to Athens
  • Winter 427|426 BCE – Kassandra in jail
  • Spring 426|425 BCE – Kassandra in jail

"As the seasons wore on, through heat and cold..." (It is not entirely certain that the following summer is in the same year.)

  • Summer 426|425 BCE – Kassandra escapes
  • Summer 426|425 BCE – Battle of Amphipolis
  • August 426|425 BCE – Kassandra returns to Sparta
  • Late autumn 426|425 BCE – Kassandra kills Deimos.

Myrinne only tells Kassandra to find Pythagoras after Deimos dies.

  • Spring 425|424 BCE – Kassandra goes to Thera for the first time and meets Pythagoras
  • Summer 425|424 BCE – Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia and discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist.

Events that are said to have happened while Kassandra was in jail:

  • Athens destroys Melos – historically occurred in 416 BCE, although Athens did raid Melos c. 426 BCE, they did not destroy its city as Kleon says they did
  • Athens defeats Aeginians
  • Athens conquered Kythera – historically 426 BCE
  • Battle of Delium – historically 424 BCE
  • Capture of Amphipolis by Spartans – historically 424–423 BCE
  • Thucydides was exiled for his failure to prevent the fall of Amphipolis to Sparta
  • Kassandra's crew kills 4 out of the last 5 Cultists (excluding Deimos and Aspasia, "last one" being Kleon) without her

Of particular note is that both the game and the novel bring up the Mytilenean revolt, and Kleon plotting to get the Athenians to vote on massacring the Mytilenians as though this is just about to happen when Kassandra escapes from jail. Historically, this occurred in 427 BCE, before the Battle of Pylos.

History

  • 431 BCE – Beginning of the Peloponnesian War
  • 430 BCE – Plague of Athens
  • 429 BCE – Perikles perishes in the Plague of Athens
  • 428 BCE - Olympics
  • 427 BCE – Battle of Plataea
  • 427 BCE – Athenians debate to vote on massacring Mytilenians
  • 426 BCE – Athens raid Melos
  • 426 BCE – Athens conquer Kythera
  • 425 BCE – Battles of Pylos and Sphacteria
  • 424 BCE – Battle of Delium
  • 424-423 BCE – Sparta captures Amphipolis
  • 422 BCE – Battle of Amphipolis, deaths of Kleon and Brasidas
  • 416 BCE – Athens destroy Melos

Game

  • 431 BCE – Start of the story
  • Myrinne asks Kassandra to visit Pythagoras before returning to Sparta.

Order as implied by level:

  • Kephallonia (1–5)
  • Megaris (6–9)
  • Phokis (9–13)
  • Lokris (12–14)
  • Malis (12–14)
  • Euboea (12–16)
  • Skyros (12–16)
  • Andros (13)
  • Makeonia (14–42)
  • Attika (15–19)
  • Keos (17–19)
  • Lestris (17–19)
  • Seriphos (17–19)
  • Melos (18–20)
  • Hydrea (18–20)
  • Argolis (18–22)
  • Korinthia (19–23)
  • Naxos (22–26)
  • Paros (23–24)
  • Delos (25–29)
  • Mykonos (25–29)
  • Pephka (26–30)
  • Samos (26–31)
  • Kos (26–31)
  • Anaphi (27)
  • Thera (27)
  • Messara (28–33)
  • Lakonia (32–36)
  • Arkadia (33–37)
  • Boeotia (34–38)
  • Elis (34–38)
  • Messenia (35–39)
  • Kythera (35–39)
  • Achaia (42–46)
  • Lemnos (42–48)
  • Thasos (42–48)
  • Lesbos (46–50)
  • Chios (46–50)

Game guide suggests an order of Keos > Argos > Korinth Game guide suggests an order of Arkadia > Boeotia > Elis

Cyfiero

My initial suggestion back in 2021:

  • Perikles' death – 429 BCE
  • Thessaly – 429 BCE—early 428 BCE (Legacy of the First Blade chapter 1)
  • Reunion at Naxos – early 428 BCE
  • •Thera, meeting with Pythagoras for the first time.
  • Crete and Kythera? if we can fit it
  • Return to Sparta – Summer 428 BCE rather than Autumn 428 BCE as in the novel
  • Olympics – Late Summer 428 BCE
  • Arkadia & Boeotia – Fall 428 BCE
  • Ousting of Pausanias – 427 BCE or 426 BCE?. But this means that there's quite a lot of gaps in this period. Alternatively we could have Arkadia in 427 BCE since it might make more sense for it to come last where they would have the proof in hand.
  • LotFD Chapter 2 – at this point there would be quite some time gaps before Pylos-Sphacteria, which in the novel were filled up by Kassandra simply hanging around training Testikles, which doesn't apply if we have the Olympics at the right date.
  • Battle of Pylos and Sphacteria – 425 BCE
  • Kassandra is marched with other POWs to Athens – Autumn 425 BCE
  • Kassandra in jail – until Summer 424 BCE or late 424 BCE, in the meantime which the Battle of Delium and capture of Amphipolis happens
  • Kassandra and co. sabotage Kleon's popularity in Athens – 423 BCE
  • Battle of Amphipolis – 422 BCE
  • Kassandra returns to Sparta – August 422 BCE
  • Kassandra kills Deimos – Late Autumn 422 BCE
  • Kassandra is given the Staff of Hermes from Pythagoras and Pythagoras dies – Spring 421 BCE
  • Kassandra returns to the Cave of Gaia & discovers Aspasia is the last Cultist – Summer 421 BCE

Nstav

Argued for Arkadia (spring) > Elis (summer) > Boeotia (autumn) based on the apparent seasons when you visit them in the game. I later pointed out that I cannot find evidence of Boeotia being set in the autumn when I revisited the location and that the Odyssey website describes Boeotia as summer.

References

  1. Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Prologue
  2. "Twenty years was enough for one to forget their debt..." (pp. 9)
  3. pp. 10