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I've not read ''[[Assassin's Creed Templars Volume 1: Black Cross]]'', but the article currently states that this particular rite was known as the "Shanghai Rite" during the events of this medium. If that is the case, why is the article entitled with a conjectural name when we have a canon name available to use instead? --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato|contributions]])</small> 22:34, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
I've not read ''[[Assassin's Creed Templars Volume 1: Black Cross]]'', but the article currently states that this particular rite was known as the "Shanghai Rite" during the events of this medium. If that is the case, why is the article entitled with a conjectural name when we have a canon name available to use instead? --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato|contributions]])</small> 22:34, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
:It appears that I was the one who originally [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/index.php?title=Chinese_Rite_of_the_Templar_Order&diff=703180&oldid=702653 added] the mention of the canonical name along with a note explaining the choice to retain the conjectural name as the title of the article. I have little recollection of this, and I don't think my note, which was subsequently removed by Sima, was specific enough as to the reasoning. Although Shanghai as a settlement under different names seemed to have existed for at least a millennium, it was at most a little known town or village for most of its history. It really does not enter history until the late 19th or early 20th century when its development exploded. Hence, there is reason to presume that it would not have been the name of the Chinese Templars for any period prior to the late 19th century.
:With that having been said, I agree that the canonical name should always be used over a conjectural one. I'm not sure why at the time I opted to keep it at "Chinese Rite". I might have chosen to do so because I saw it as the safer option; I might have found it exceedingly difficult to introduce the subject as the Shanghai Rite then somehow explain somewhere that name would almost certainly be anachronistic for any period prior to the time period of ''Black Cross''. Finally, I might have hesitated because I wasn't (and still am not) entirely sure that the name Chinese Rite is conjectural or not. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:42, May 3, 2019 (UTC)

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I've not read Assassin's Creed Templars Volume 1: Black Cross, but the article currently states that this particular rite was known as the "Shanghai Rite" during the events of this medium. If that is the case, why is the article entitled with a conjectural name when we have a canon name available to use instead? --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 22:34, May 2, 2019 (UTC)

It appears that I was the one who originally added the mention of the canonical name along with a note explaining the choice to retain the conjectural name as the title of the article. I have little recollection of this, and I don't think my note, which was subsequently removed by Sima, was specific enough as to the reasoning. Although Shanghai as a settlement under different names seemed to have existed for at least a millennium, it was at most a little known town or village for most of its history. It really does not enter history until the late 19th or early 20th century when its development exploded. Hence, there is reason to presume that it would not have been the name of the Chinese Templars for any period prior to the late 19th century.
With that having been said, I agree that the canonical name should always be used over a conjectural one. I'm not sure why at the time I opted to keep it at "Chinese Rite". I might have chosen to do so because I saw it as the safer option; I might have found it exceedingly difficult to introduce the subject as the Shanghai Rite then somehow explain somewhere that name would almost certainly be anachronistic for any period prior to the time period of Black Cross. Finally, I might have hesitated because I wasn't (and still am not) entirely sure that the name Chinese Rite is conjectural or not. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:42, May 3, 2019 (UTC)